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Inferring dialectal pronunciations

Hi, do you speak Hakka, Hokkien or Teochew? If you, please do not infer the pronunciation of words/compounds in those dialects from the pronunciation of individual characters. RcAlex36 (talk) 03:48, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

songket

Hey, do you happen to know which syllable of songket is stressed in Malay or Indonesian? (I'd guess it's the one currently marked with a low tone...) ←₰-→ Lingo ^Bingo _Dingo (talk) 13:59, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Generally the penultimate syllable is stressed in the Malay phonology, unless its vowel is a schwa. So in the case of the word songket, it is the first syllable that is stressed. Patnugot123 (talk) 14:17, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. Would you be able to clean up the pronunciation in a few of the languages? A sign similar to ' is used for marking primary stress. ←₰-→ Lingo ^Bingo _Dingo (talk) 14:19, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Tamil loans in Malay

Hi Patnugot123! Thanks a lot for your thorough cleanup and expansion of Appendix:Malay words of Tamil origin! Maybe you can also update the references. The second one listed there is available on the Internet Archive[1], and doesn't look very trustworthy to me. The author heavily leans on Wilkinson and includes inherited words such as asam, mabok, tali, and loans from Arabic such as Yahudi as Tamil loans; his structural comparison, if really meant to detect Tamil influence on Malay, is very dubious, as he seems to ascribe "compounding" (as in air mata), reduplication and the use of interrogative particles to Tamil influence, which betrays little knowledge of common MP and AN syntax. I can think of Hoogervorst papers for better reference, but maybe you have other sources. –Austronesier (talk) 07:10, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

I'll add some references later. Some of the words I deleted already have Wiktionary entries about them. And the same goes to some of the words I added. As for the second reference listed there, I couldn't agree more. Patnugot123 (talk) 07:01, 20 August 2021 (UTC)