Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 December 10
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NEW NOMINATIONS
Category:Children's films about death
- Category:Children's films about death - Template:Lc1
- Nominator's rationale: Delete. This category is the most offensive category title I've ever seen. Georgia guy (talk) 20:49, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
Category:Parroty Interactive
- Category:Palladium Interactive - Template:Lc1
- Category:Parroty Interactive - Template:Lc1
- Nominator's rationale: Category only contains three articles. As the company is now defunct, it is quite unlikely there will be room for expansion. Alpha_Quadrant (talk) 19:18, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
- Must all categories have potential for expansion, and is three articles not a sufficient number for having a category? Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:26, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
Category:Early videotape recordings
- Propose upmerging Category:Early videotape recordings
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge per WP:OC#SUBJECTIVE. A look at the category's mixed bag of contents -- grouping the CBS Evening News and various video tape recorders, etc. -- demonstrates how subjective and nebulous this is. As does the description that this is for "early videotape recordings of technical or historic interest." Is British television Apollo 11 coverage "early" TV? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 04:33, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
- Comment I would say that the 70's isn't early for studio videotape, but it was during the transition from film stock to purely magnetic tape. 76.65.128.198 (talk) 06:01, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
- Delete/upmerge If there was some kind of definable criterion for this within the literature about this topic, then this would be a different story. Otherwise, this appears to be an arbitrary piece of guesswork. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:57, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
- Rename to something like "History of videotape". Category has spread beyond early idea of uniting the first few videotape recordings (The Edsel Show, An Evening with Fred Astaire, Douglas Edwards and the News, etc.) and some entries don't make a lot of sense with the category title at present, though this also argues for their removal from the category, not its deletion. Note that there are plenty of analogous "Early x" categories. ProhibitOnions (T) 09:04, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
- — Note to closing admin: ProhibitOnions (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:20, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
- ... something like Category:Early computers has a very clear criteria, and co-exists with Category:History of computing. Videotape doesn't have the long and rich history that computing has, imo, when one includes the early work of Babbage, etc. What do you see in a History of videotape category that is already not in Category:History of television? Category:Video storage does list a number of obsolete formats and I suppose they could be moved to such a new category. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:20, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
- Comment -- It ought to be possible to define the category better, thus providing objective criteria for inclusion. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:34, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
Buildings destroyed during World War II in the United Kingdom
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings destroyed during World War II in the United Kingdom to Category:Buildings and structures in the United Kingdom destroyed during World War II
- Nominator's rationale: Include “and structures” as for the parent category; this category includes a memorial. Also is the order “in” followed by “during World War II” preferable? Hugo999 (talk) 04:20, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
- rename per nom Proposal presents facts and seems reasonable. Hmains (talk) 04:21, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
- Rename but I wonder whether the category should not refer to "by enemy action". Perhaps a head note would be sufficient for the purpose. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:30, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
- Rename Like Peterkingiron says, I think there should be a note in the category head. This is not about building clearing for urban development during a war time, so make the note and set the precedent for including it. Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:28, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
Category Hiking Trails in Italy, Hong Kong
- Propose upmerging
- Category:Walks and trails in Hong Kong and Category:Country trails in Hong Kong into Category:Hiking trails in Hong Kong
- Category:Footpaths in Italy to Category:Hiking trails in Italy
- Nominator's rationale: “Hiking Trail” is the usual term for recreational trails (including Rail Trails) so the upmerging of additional (and unnecessary) categories is proposed. There are other national names in the category Category:Hiking trails by country though. Hugo999 (talk) 03:49, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
- REverse merge -- In my category (UK), the normal term is "public footpath". Since Italy is nearer UK than USA, "Footpaths" seems more appropriate. I do not know the usage in Hong Kong, but would suggest that the other two could conveniently be merged into Category:Walks and trails in Hong Kong. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:20, 10 December 2011 (UTC)