Talk:George Everest
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[edit]No No Wiki! How ceaselessly you play this trick!. His nationality was not welsh ,it was British..we are not told what his welsh connections were but as he was baptised in London and children were usually baptised in those days very soon after birth, its possible he was merely on a visit with his wife. Wiki uses every trick to break up the British entity..I realise that using British to describe people means that a huge number of entries are about the British and that produces a strange inferiority complex in Americans You dont always refer to to Americans in this way .,you dont say that so and so is a Texan or a New Yorker when in fact the US states have far more power than the devolved parliaments of wales and scotland.. Until these places become independent states and I dont think that will happen even in Scotland please stop telling lies about people..you do it all the time with the British,anyone who uses wiki a lot knows this ,it stains all your other articles and Oh dear lets now be prepared for fanatical nationalist loonies to appear to stir things up.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.99.38.208 (talk) 11:48, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
To be fair, Wales is a country. Although Britain is a country too, I don't see any reason why we HAVE to call him British instead of Welsh. Anyone who thinks he should be called "Welsh" is a "fanatical nationalist loony" to you - but couldn't you also be seen as a "fanatical nationalist loony" from a British perspective, insisting your version of nationality should take priority? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.98.179.223 (talk) 21:35, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
I think the original contributor is basically correct, though the language is a bit OTT. You don't call Boris Johnson an American do you? No. (Wpedia calls him an "America born" Brit.) The other point is that Everest does not have a Welsh surname, and on that basis his connections to Wales may not be all that strong. He may not have been happy to have been described as "Welsh". Does anyone know? Doubtless some Welshmen would like to claim him, but "Welsh born Briton" seems more correct to me. With that said, I dare not make changes to the front page for fear of upsetting the Wpedia Gestapo. John2o2o2o (talk) 18:48, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
- 'Everest' is a name who's origins lie in Kent.
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I never really understood formal phonetic representations but hopefully a better person than me, will be able to improve on the note I've added about pronounciation.
If this page is updated in respect of pronounciation check that the Everest page still makes sense in respect of pronounciation.
-- Peter Blackburn http://www.boost.net/peter
- Pronunciation note adjusted (being British, Everest would have pronounced the last syllable of his name to rhyme with "wrist", not "rest") - Picapica 20:08, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- If I remember correctly, the surname 'Everest' is derived from something like 'Eaforest' and is an Anglo-Saxon name originally from Kent. Ian Dunster (talk) 10:04, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Errors in the articles
[edit]This comment appeared in Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities. Can someone who know the subject verify this and update the article :
There are two factual errors and a little missing information in the article on George Everest (for whom Mt Everest was named). Here's your entry [my comments/corrections are in brackets]:
'Colonel Sir George Everest... He was largely responsible for completion of the Great Trigonometric Survey of India along the meridian arc from the south of India extending north to Nepal... The survey was started by William Lambton in 1806 and lasted several decades. Mount Everest was surveyed in 1852 under his successor Andrew Waugh [it sounds like Waugh is Lambton's successor: wrong - he was Everest's successor who, in turn, was a successor [which one?] of Lambton in the position of Surveyor-General of India], who named it Mount Everest in 1865 [the correct date is '1856'] in honour of Sir George. [George Everest was not knighted until after the mountain was named for him... so it should read 'in honour of George (later Sir George) Everest'..
Hope this makes sense. If any questions, contact me:
Don Messerschmidt, PhD Anthropologist & Writer Kathmandu, Nepal [email removed to prevent you being spammed]
Tintin (talk) 07:19, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
His personality
[edit]I have 2 critiques of John Keay's The Great Arc, and reference is made in both of them to Everest's personality.
- One calls him "the controversial British Colonel George Everest".
- The other says "[Lambton]'s assistant, George Everest, a singularly truculent and generously [sic] disliked individual, completed the survey. Everest, incidentally, pronounced his name Eve-rest - not like "cleverest" - and thanked no one for getting it wrong".
What can we say about this? -- JackofOz (talk) 21:50, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Place of death error
[edit]freebmd shows George Everest died 4Q 1866 in Kensington, not Greenwich as mentioned in the article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.193.224.194 (talk) 06:17, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Pronunciation error
[edit]Another mistake people make about Sir George is with his surname, It was NOT in fact "Everest", it was actually "Eve-Rest" , So "Mount Everest" should be called "Mount Eve-Rest". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Barry1959 (talk • contribs) 18:58, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Indeed, one of the biggest mistakes in the world.
Cleanup tag
[edit]Can someone put it in the right place please, and/or deal with the section on the present state of his residence. Jackiespeel (talk) 15:46, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
This article contains a large amount of irrelevant and....
[edit]This article contains a large amount of irrelevant and unencyclopedic data. To call it "information" is overrating it.98.67.172.140 (talk) 03:01, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
- May I support this comment. A few (very few) details of his family and where he lived should suffice. I would expect a much more detailed account of his life's work on the Indian survey and the results that he obtained for the Figure of the Earth. After all, that's why he is famous. Let's have your comments.
- Peter Mercator (talk) 16:03, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Merge proposal: Ethel Everest here
[edit]George's daughter, Ethel, seems to have had some significance, but wouldn't meet WP:BIO or WP:GNG, as her significance seems to be only connected to the money she had and the people she associated with. However, rather than delete Ethel Everest, a merge here is a better idea. Ethel's article is only a couple of lines long, so wouldn't be out of place merged here. Boleyn (talk) 07:41, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
There are two books (with Google extracts) mentioned on the article: she seems to be the most notable of GE's children. Jackiespeel (talk) 10:23, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
- The article Ethel Everest should certainly be deleted. She may deserve a small footnote in this article, but I am not convinced. This article requires a serious rewrite which brings Everest's work on the survey into more prominence. A description of that undertaking together with the available references is really necessary. The description of his Indian home is way too long.: most of it should go. I vote for British rather than Welsh! Peter Mercator (talk) 22:30, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
- It is sometimes easier to create a stub and then come to a collective decision on whether it can be collaboratively evolved or turned into a subheading or mention on other articles. (Not 'how many angels can dance on a pin' but which pins they should be assigned to :) )
Perhaps a 'Family' subheading, in which EE's connections can be noted, and which would also note Mary Everest Boole and her family will cover all issues. Jackiespeel (talk) 10:30, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
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Shape of the Geoid Calculations/Discoveries
[edit]According to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas-Louis_de_Lacaille Everest made significant contributions to discovering the shape of the geoid.
Shouldn't that warrant a mention on his home page?
I dunno how to chase this footnote down to get more information. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas-Louis_de_Lacaille#cite_note-4 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chippo1 (talk • contribs) 00:47, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
Everest's house in Mussoorie, India
[edit]"The house is under the jurisdiction of the Tourism Department. These underground water cisterns (or perhaps pits for storing ice, although water is scarce in the area) are quite deep and lie uncovered in the front yard outside the house, filled with litter and posing danger of slipping."
This paragraph doesn't make a lot of sense. I think there must have been an edit that removed some previous information referring to the water cisterns. I know nothing about them, so I will not make the update myself - but I suggest somebody ought to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DiverseSynergy (talk • contribs) 13:09, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
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