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Bot flag

Per [1], should HooptyBot officially be given the bot flag? It never actually got one. jp×g 🗯️ 18:13, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Given that it's only working on a single set of subpages it didn't need it. Primefac (talk) 19:42, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alveus Sanctuary "exotic" removal

I see you reverted my change to remove the reference to exotic animals/pets from the introduction on Alveus Sanctuary. I'm a bit confused by why this was done? Many of the ambassadors listed on the Alveus site do not appear to be exotic, for example multiple chickens and a cow. Additionally, the text linked out to the Exotic pet article, which I don't think is particularly correct either, as the animals are ambassadors not pets (many would be illegal as pets)? MattIPv4 (talk) 15:29, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If they are not entirely exotics, then by all means we can reword the sentence. Primefac (talk) 15:51, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Arbitration

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Histmerge for Benjamin Ryan

Hey, you declined my histmerge request for Benjamin Ryan (keyboardist) to gain the history from Benjamin Ryan after I changed the latter's redirect target. You mentioned no copy/paste page move, but there effectively is — I copied the contents of Benjamin Ryan (previously a redirect to Cradle of Filth) and pasted them into Benjamin Ryan (keyboardist) and then changed the redirect target to the more-specific List of Cradle of Filth members.

More importantly, though, the page history of Benjamin Ryan contains 36 revisions that were a biography of the keyboardist, before Animalparty changed it to a redirect. That is the history that needs merging into the new redirect at Benjamin Ryan (keyboardist), otherwise that biography article is lost in the history of a hndis redirect.

Can you take another look, please? Thanks! — OwenBlacker (he/him; Talk) 17:11, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think you are mistaken. Benjamin Ryan (keyboardist) shows exactly three edits: you making the page as a redirect, you asking for the histmerge, and me declining that histmerge. There is no copied history at that page.

As far as Benjamin Ryan goes, I think it is not unreasonable to redirect it back to the list of band members, since he is the only "Benjamin" listed at Ben Ryan (meaning that there is a natural/spelling disambiguation). Primefac (talk) 19:12, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You've got my intention the wrong way round. Benjamin Ryan has the history; that is the histmerge source. Benjamin Ryan (keyboardist) is the redirect I created as effectively a copy/paste move; that is the histmerge destination.

I deliberately removed the spelling-only disambiguation, because there are other people called Benjamin Ryan who could be notable — not least a prominent queer journalist for whom we do not currently have a biography. In any case, given most of the people at Ben Ryan are shortened names from Benjamin, relying on that distinction for the keyboardist, especially when some sources refer to him as Ben.

What I'm asking for is for the history of the erstwhile argument about the keyboardist to be connected with the new redirect I created (a more specific article title that could become a future article about him) rather than it continuing to sit with the spelling-varation redirect to the hndis.

Does that make sense? — OwenBlacker (he/him; Talk) 22:17, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's kind of my point. It's not a copy/paste pagemove, so there is no attribution to save and thus no reason for a histmerge. If you want the history of the un-dabbed redirect to be at the dabbed redirect, then {{db-g7}} the dabbed redirect and move the un-dabbed redirect yourself (or actually, use {{db-move}} since that will save a step). Feel free to point to this discussion to show that I don't consider my edit there to invalidate the G7. Primefac (talk) 00:08, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I still don't agree, but the G7 will fix the issue the same way, so there's no value in me continuing to argue the toss 😅 Thanks! — OwenBlacker (he/him; Talk) 10:45, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All done. Thank you! — OwenBlacker (he/him; Talk) 11:11, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AWB Permission error

Hello, you were the person who granted my request for AWB permissions back in March of this year and I've used it as I said I would to add champion templates to the bottom of results pages for sporting events. However when logging in today I'm getting a permission error that says "This user doesn't have enough privilleges to make automatic edits on this wiki." I'm still on the check page for having permissions and I don't believe I broke any of the rules so I'm slightly confused. The only thing that it could be is the speed at which I was making edits. Otherwise I'm at a loss as to why I'm getting this error so if you're able to clear that up for me or point me in the direction of something that could it would be greatly appreciated. Brandon Downes (talk) 15:43, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It sounds like you are attempting to make fully-automated (e.g. "bot") edits, which you are not able to do as your account is (obviously) not a bot. Usually the bot menu is not available to non-bot users, though, so that's a bit odd, but I would check to make sure you are not trying to auto-save with any of your settings. Primefac (talk) 15:45, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was using it 12 hours ago no problem and after that my PC has been off and nothing has been changed in the settings. So I'm at a loss to be honest. Brandon Downes (talk) 15:59, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, fair enough. Might be worth raising the issue at Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser. Primefac (talk) 16:00, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Will do, thank you for your help anyways Brandon Downes (talk) 16:05, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thought you may want an update it's not just an error for me a few people are having the same problem so it looks to be an error on the AWB end and not the fault of users. Brandon Downes (talk) 16:24, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I saw that, on the one hand it's good to know it's not just a "you" issue, though unfortunate that it's happening across the board. On the plus side, posting has raised the issue so it can get looked at. Net positive I guess. Primefac (talk) 17:11, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AfC Reviews

Because of this I feel it is best for me not to reach out directly to the editor but when I was looking at history after the two created pages I sent to AfD, I noticed that there are quite a few AfC reviews that may (or maybe not) not pass. I wanted to bring it to leave it in your hands since you approve new reviewers. An example is This BLP which is largely unsourced, this approval which is another one with a large amount of content that is unsourced, and this BLP which is the same. I don't care either way but was going to reach out and ask them but decided against it after the ANI report was filed. CNMall41 (talk) 04:57, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not the worst things I've seen, but I'll take another look. Primefac (talk) 12:36, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There might be a few sourcing issues with their accepted drafts, but on the whole what's there is reliably sourced and demonstrates notability. As much as we'd like AFC submissions to be perfect, the truth is that all we really need to be doing at the end of the day is making sure that notability is demonstrated. There are some reviewers (I usually find myself in this camp) who will remove unsourced content before accepting, but it is not necessarily required. I will note also that your first link given is not a BLP as the subject died quite a while ago. If you see substandard drafts being regularly accepted, a warning may be appropriate, but at this exact point in time I'm not sure it's needed. Primefac (talk) 17:56, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Topic ban info

Hello Primefac, I saw your comments on Arbitration clarification and would like to know what the consensus was on this situation. I only ask here because I see statements from numerous administrators saying slightly different things. Please let me know so I can properly appeal this ban. Thank you, Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 17:08, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have yet to look into the matter. Primefac (talk) 17:49, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just noting that I have replied at ARCA. Primefac (talk) 17:56, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Closing of Template:Accordionists by nationality and century category header

Hey there,

So I don't see how a merge closure is warranted given that I raised several concerns that the one merge vote did not address. What's the protocol for appealing a template close? Mason (talk) 01:25, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is the process. I'll take another look. Primefac (talk) 11:02, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I'm not opposed to combining subtemplates, as several of the subtemplates are already cover multiple occupations, eg (Template:Women_writers_by_nationality_and_century_category_header). But the core idea is to keep the subtemplates *really* simple to make it easy to maintain the extremely complex main template: Template:Occupation by nationality and century category header. Mason (talk) 13:06, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]