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publish should propagate photo person-tags to Twitter as an inline shorthand #547
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This seems like a good fallback given the API limitations 👍 |
huh. from a product/UX perspective, i have to admit i'm not convinced. it seems like this could be an unwelcome surprise to users:
the last is (reasonable) speculation, but the inconsistencies in the first two are real. if we were to do this, i wonder if we should do it for all tweets and silos, for consistency. worth thinking about more. |
Agree, but also if a lot of people started using 👤, it's a signal to Twitter "hey we'd use this feature if you supported it" (like @kevinmarks's emoji reactions, which seemed ... particularly effective) It'd also be important not to duplicate the person's tag if they are @-mentioned in the body of the post.
I convinced myself that this wasn't a big deal because the text that accompanies a photo is usually short and/or less important compared to the photo itself. I definitely wouldn't be OK with losing a bunch of characters from note posts |
I person tag speakers in noterlive.com html generation. I don't in the tweets I make, just @ mention them |
looking at this another way: bridgy is big enough now that it may not the right place to experiment with unusual new designs, patterns, and techniques. it may be more appropriate for individual sites to try out this kind of thing, see how it works, iterate, and then we add it to bridgy once it's stabilized and there's a bit more of a consensus. |
That I agree with. Bridgy Publish should be a lagging indicator -- adopt conventions based on what people are doing with their own sites, not set new conventions. |
Agreed in general with a lot of this analysis, especially with personal site experimentation first. Planning on it. :) Some updates:
Continuing to iterate on design thinking here: https://indiewebcamp.com/person-tag#tweet_text |
In continuing to iterate on the brainstorming of how to POSSE person-tags to Twitter, especially from in-content UI vs a separate explicit UI, I am discovering even more complexity in "doing it well". Thus while I'd like to leave this as an open issue for Bridgy (my intuition is still that there exists a simple/elegant/predictable solution that Bridgy could adopt), for now the burden of simplicity / implementability falls on some sort of indieweb site version. |
it's been 3y, and we haven't really started doing this at all in the indieweb community. tentatively closing. feel free to reopen if/when we do! |
This is a follow-on from Issue #459 for a specific use-case.
When POSSEing a photo post to Twitter, Bridgy Publish should detect person-tags in the original, and then put them as the very last thing in the tweet text (before the original post link), preceded by a line-break.
This makes sense from a design / adjacency perspective, since Twitter photo posts put the photo after the tweet text, and thus in reading the tweet, one will see:
Proposed person-tags downlevel tweet text support examples:
E.g. person-tagging two people with @-names and one with only their own domain (not on Twitter)
And if that one person lacks a domain or @-name, then just their given name:
Note that the person-tag tweet text fallback should be preceded by a line break so that the "👤" starts the line, which will make it look much more like a line of metadata about the photo rather than part of the preceding content text.
Details of the derivation of this proposed person-tag tweet-text fallback here:
To be clear this feature is only requested for photo posts to Twitter, since only Twitter's photo posts have their own person-tags (plain text tweets lack person-tags, thus no need to clutter them with something unfamiliar to Twitter users).
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