Bug 4: Yes.
Bug 5: Im not sure. For example, I have a big creature, and I noticed that It is non-metric. I tried to replase zooid, but then it become black (In editor). Game thought that that zooids was disconected.
And what do you think about difficults? Will you add It? And new types?
Hey, thanks for interest in playing Sipho!
Let's make sure you are able to. Have you extracted files from downloaded .zip?
Just to be sure, have you tried extracting all files from the zip? Like right click on the zip file and select "Extract ..."
Hi!
I have uploaded two Linux builds similar to WebGL:
Sipho 0.91_Nofx Linux Universal Gamma.zip
Sipho 0.91_Nofx Linux Universal.zip
You can find them on main Sipho page. I couldn't figure out how to link them directly on itch. Would you be able to tell us which one works for you? They both have some image effects disabled like WebGL does. And Gamma one uses Gamma rendering (instead of Linear). Thanks!
Hi,
Could you contact us through one of these sites:
https://twitter.com/sipho_game
Dominas#6068 on Discord
Or by email: sipho@allpartsconnected.com
Itch doesn't have private message functionality, so that's why I'm writing here.
Hello everyone, I found a peculiar bug in the Demo Day 22 Sipho edition. It can be reproduced like this: delete all creature parts, then put structure parts in a T shape as depicted on the image (don't put anything else but structure parts). If done right, creature structure in the editor will become distorted slightly and the grid will tilt a bit. Upon the exit from editor window something bizarre will occur: creature parts will move on their own, twisting and stretching the structure, likely "explode" and scatter parts across the map or get them stuck in walls or destroyed on spike debris.
Edit: notice how on the 3d image the top of the T shape takes less space than it should. That's the distortion we look for.
Thank you for the report!
It's a known issue in our soft body solver. It doesn't handle larger symmetric builds which we didn't expect it to surface in normal play conditions. I'm going to take a note it's a higher priority issue than we anticipated. Thanks again!
I'm all-too-familiar with this bug, especially since 99% of my builds are symmetrical (even the one build that isn't mirror-symmetric is radially-symmetric instead).
The bug can also present itself in other forms as well: Any sign of the grid shifting, no matter how slight, is a sign that this bug is surfacing. Side effects include the inability to place zooids in areas that you usually could on the other mirrored half of a symmetrical siphonophore (i.e. the game is literally forcing asymmetry), and sudden distortion while placing zooids.
Thanks for the answer) And now I have another bug for you.
My actions: start as sea creature; complete first level with 41 total nutrition by destroying some green blobs after the message "stage clear" (good job on the message and weakened whirlpools by the way, feels much better than forced whirlpools). As soon as i start second level (boss) I hit space to redesign my creature but instead I see title screen. I pick "continue" and instead of 1st boss I get into this abyssal empty level with nothing but darkness in all directions. Can't find player logs on windows, no idea where it is.
Edit: could not reproduce the bug by doing the same, might be a rare exception rather than stable error.
Nice report. Do you play in browser or in downloaded version? Do you click "Dive" using mouse or Enter key? Has this ever happened on first playthrough (in comparison to happening only after dying/manually starting new game)?
This is something that has been reported but has been very elusive to repeat, we are looking for more info to dig in. My first hunch tell me that it has something to do with UI because Space key is the one that activates selected UI element.
Thanks. I play downloaded dd24 version on windows, usually mouse-click on the dive button or let it fill up on its own; but always use spacebar to enter edit mode. The problem only happened once and it was a new game without tutorial, but not first playthrough. The whole void zone happened as I clicked continue after that bugged main menu exit. I hope this info helps.
At great speeds collision with walls may get you stuck within the wall. I think it should either bump you out or damage your parts which would be reasonable giving the fact player just ran into a wall at mach 1 speed.
PS: Dominas, the DD22 game version has disappeared from your profile and requires password to access now. If you hid it intentionally, does that mean we were not supposed to access and test it? If you feel that it's too close to complete product state to be a demo anymore, we will understand.
Thank you for another report!
We should fix those pushers not acting physically and then figure out if additional actions are required for collisions. Fun fact, spike used to get stuck in walls and that was super annoying. We changed collision mode to be more precise and that fixed it. I hope we won't have to do it for all Zooids though.
Re DD22: Please, feel free to continue testing! You have provided valuable reports, we highly appreciate that. DD22 was intended for a gamedev community to test and provide feedback on.
Greetings everyone, it's me again! So I checked out newest testing branch version and it's great, graphical changes and level design improved, but... here I am at the cage boss and as I expected it spawns 2 minions that I easily defeat. Then it spawns 3. Then 4. Then there is a constant stream of a whole horde of minions all mobbing up on me and pushing me around. I am experienced player, I didn't fall, and it was a fun battle, but I imagine some players will be... puzzled, if they have to fight constantly increasing number of minions for what feels like 20 minutes. Was this intended? I remember people were arguing that cage boss was hard back when there were 2 minions, but here it's just a zerg-rush, they just don't stop. Boss used to absorb itself to spawn these little minions, but now it does so at a slower rate. This is cool for a hard mode, but new players gonna be massacred)
On the picture - this is just the beginning, there's gonna be more of them...
I'm not even sure this counts as a bug or just slight disbalance
Hey, welcome back!
We have increased spawn rate to make this boss less farmable and have a more of risk-reward thing while fighting it's minions. It might be too hard, but with certain tactics the boss is easy no matter what spawn rate it has. I'll keep an eye open for it's difficulty, although with upcoming changes to the game, we won't have to reduce the difficulty. Thank you!
Gonna catch them all! Too bad there is no achievement for collecting all the parts, but I'm pretty sure you didn't intend it to be possible for players to collect all of them. But here I am again...
Here's how I did it (testing branch version): I got to the last boss, and it's awesome, and it has all the parts and rotates to attack me with various strategies, and there are also 4 supporting mini-bosses that come to help the boss when it's in trouble, and you only finish the level once all 5 of them are dead, but zooid part drops from the main boss once it's dead and if I quit out to menu once I get it before killing mini-bosses, I can continue the level from start, with all the bosses alive. Even though it's hard, one can farm last boss for parts and quit out as long as they don't kill mini-bosses, as the game ending sequence does not activate. This can make free roaming level quite fun :D
Sometimes final boss is unresponsive until some unclear event triggers it. In this dormant state it regenerates any destroyed zooids instantly and indefinitely and doesn't have protective red shell on its primary zooid. This may happen more often when I sneak around and kill a few mini-bosses first. Perhaps it's something with boss ai, as it's quite complicated as I can see.
At the cage boss I ate all of his minions and grew rather large. On the next level the game started "zone cleared" after I ate just one enemy, and on the level after that "zone cleared" sequence started immediately, spawning the very first whirlpool right at my position. And I noticed that whirlpools only show the DIVE button when you move into them from outside. I was curious what will happen if I just wait in the whirlpool... In the old days it would just force me to dive, but thankfully these days are over. However, it just kept growing and then other whirlpools appeared and grew bigger, and then I thought "hey, how am I gonna dive without DIVE button? I need to enter it from outside, but it's whirlpool everywhere and I don't have my button..."
In other words, welcome to the second circle of Dante's Inferno.
Eventually I managed to find the last small patch of still water and the DIVE button appeared as I entered whirlpools again, but that was lucky.
The longer I play at free roam level the lower my fps drops, down to 1 frame per second. If I quit out to menu and continue, everything gets back to normal, for the time being, then fps gradually drops again. Perhaps there are some objects on the map that aren't properly disposed over time? Little green blobs maybe? It needs debugging to say for sure. Thanks in advance.
Edit: Remember the trick with final boss that allows player to get new zooid and quit out before completing boss fight as long as 1 minion is alive? Turns out it also works on cage boss. I kinda like this bug, though, having full zooid collection is fun. But you might see this the other way.
Also, when I click Play Again button after final boss - it doesn't do anything.
PS: Is this a good place to leave bug reports? I used to leave bug reports in this post so that other players would see them to prevent duplicate reports, but now I notice there aren't many bug reports coming from other players, so would you like me to sent reports anywhere else?
Hey,
Thank you for all these reports! We also use discussion forum on Steam, but we monitor both communities, so you can use whichever you prefer.
Haven't been here for a long time! Here's a bug that happens quite frequently on Cage Boss, when there is a lot of creatures bumping around. The game suddenly and instantaneously freezes to 1 frame per minute or so, every zooid looks misplaced and damaged and camera moves to the center of map and pans out. Processor gets heavily loaded during the freeze. This happens very often to me.
And I just realized - if anything like that happens again, please upload game log file, it can be very useful to determine why it happens. It can be found:
| macOS | ~/Library/Logs/All Parts Connected/Sipho/Player.log |
| Windows | C:\Users\username\AppData\LocalLow\All Parts Connected\Sipho\Player.log |
| Linux | ~/.config/unity3d/All Parts Connected/Sipho/Player.log |
Hi!
Do you experience this issue with Demo or full version? Could you please upload game log after you run the game. It can be found at:
| macOS | ~/Library/Logs/All Parts Connected/Sipho/output_log.txt |
| Windows | C:\Users\username\AppData\LocalLow\All Parts Connected\Sipho\output_log.txt |
| Linux | ~/.config/unity3d/All Parts Connected/Sipho/output_log.txt |
