User talk:Vanished user 88ea9d4ca7a2ed854a43ba56e408dae6: Difference between revisions

Neutral Point of View

How did I not have a neutral point of view? I removed a poorly written part of a page and gave my reasons for doing so. I'm new to editing, but I believe my listed reasons are in alignment with Wikipedia's rules and guidelines to improve content. I'm unsure what the issue is. Is it frowned upon to remove poorly written, sourced, and unsubstantial content?

According to an article by University of Toronto Law faculty member Florence Ashley, others say that "arguments against this criminalisation..."

It's referencing an article titled "Genderfucking Non-Disclosure: Sexual Fraud, Transgender Bodies, and Messy Identities" by a trans-identified male. While I don't think we should reject trans-voices on this topic, it's clearly a biased source to begin with.

"According to an article" is extremely vague, too. If the author is an authority on the subject, I expect something more substantial for this article. Instead, their name is used to invoke an unnamed article that then quotes unnamed "others" as a thirdhand account. It's an opinion from an unknown person saying, "Yeah, well, some people argue against this because they believe trans-men are trans-men" or whatever. I don't think this is up to encyclopedic standards.

Yes, I'm sure some people don't consider this rape-by-deception - that's WHY we have this article. Shoehorning in affirmation that it isn't because some article by some person references "others" who suggest some people think it isn't rape !== encyclopedic standards.

Thanks.

Pingpong947 (talk) 03:26, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

May 2024

Why are you archiving live URLs? M.Bitton (talk) 14:47, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello @M.Bitton, I am in quite a mood of archiving links, to help the encyclopedia be more stable in that regard. I did countries recently, and I just recently started focusing on some countries in Africa, which I believe are often with links that are 'down' quickly, and are often sourced with links, also. On the FR:WP it's the African Month, so I figured that I would do that to help, here, because links are often archived on a lot of Western-linked pages, such as 'New York' or 'USA', whereas for Africa or other parts of the world, they are less. This is basically to help posterity keep links, if we can. AgisdeSparte (talk) 14:52, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Fair enough, though bear in mind that doing it it automatically means that the content of some of them (such as this one) won't be archived. M.Bitton (talk) 14:56, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

@M.Bitton Yes, I try to do a lot of pages instead of really exhaustive work, because I'm like 'at least if they have some sources on each subject it's best than having a lot of sources on less subjects', then other contributors can pass after and complete if they want ^^ AgisdeSparte (talk) 14:58, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

You're also archiving Google books previews (which increase the size of the article for no reason as they cannot be archived), so please exclude them from the script that you're using. M.Bitton (talk) 16:41, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

@M.Bitton I use IaBOT, which doesn't allow to change the script (in my knowledge), it automatically excludes some stuff, such as Youtube or that kind of links but probably doesn't do it for everything, indeed. For the specifics of the Google Books previews, I don't know if there is a rule about archiving those links or not, but I would say that they give somewhat of an interesting info on the book because there you can see the cover of the book, which you can't on WP. I'm always thinking about what if WP or a lot of the web gets lost and we only have those archive links staying, and I think in that regard, the covers given by Google Books could be useful for posterity to have some infos that aren't to be found in WP, like the art on the covers. AgisdeSparte (talk) 10:19, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

If you have Node JS installed on your computer, I can give you my script I use to bulk archive URLs to archive.ph through CMD. Once setup, it's just running a batch file via double-click. Pingpong947 (talk) 03:27, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

Archiving GBooks?

Hi! Thanks for trying to archive the two refs in the tiny stub I made at clothes shop. I wonder, did you actually manage to see the pages in question via those links? Because I didn't, while I could access them both without difficulty using the live urls. Maybe I'm completely wrong, but I was under the impression that archiving a GBooks link was invariably a fail. Is your experience different? Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:18, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

@Justlettersandnumbers Yes, it's failing, I noted that after the comments that were made and decided to revert my modifs when I see that Google Books are the only links archived on the page. AgisdeSparte (talk) 11:05, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of 2024 dissolution of the National Assembly for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article 2024 dissolution of the National Assembly is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2024 dissolution of the National Assembly until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

Cmsth11126a02 (talk) 07:14, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

On the note before

Please do read what I replied in my talk page, I wasn't at all trying to vandalize using an IP address, I was making sure that everyone adheres to WP:NPOV 2001:448A:2020:224C:BCD5:1DD1:7F20:B5C0 (talk) 17:34, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Yes, you're right, I reverted my modif on the page and I'll do the same on your talk page. The best is to go back to previous versions in that case, I feel like, as I did for the page, like that we start on a clean state somewhat, you know. AgisdeSparte (talk) 17:36, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

We will get to the issue later then, to fix some issues. It is already night time in the country that I live in. Please if there are also any registered users committing vandalism or doing non-neutral point of view edits, I believe we should also take action against it. 2001:448A:2020:224C:BCD5:1DD1:7F20:B5C0 (talk) 17:46, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Please see what is happening in [1], and [2], the latter user seems to not be neutral on issues, it seems like the person would only be willing to side with certain religion/ethnicity. This user has also been complained by numerous editors but it has since been removed in the person's talkpage. 2001:448A:2020:224C:BCBB:B4E0:1D70:F425 (talk) 03:35, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

See my answer to the next subject on my talk page AgisdeSparte (talk) 06:40, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Disruptive IP

As an editor, you should review the references first before making a reversion [3] Instead of supporting a stealth editor with multiple different IPs, you should be able to identify which ones are actually disruptive. By the way, I've known this IP for a long time. Bayoka55 (talk) 05:29, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Please read wikipedia's policies, WP:NEIPIAV, not every IP is necessarily a vandal. I'm editting on IP address just so that it would guarantee my right to privacy, which is guaranteed by the Wikimedia Foundation to IP users. Not meaning to vandalize or to distrupt wikipedia in any way. 2001:448A:2020:224C:31:6D1B:277A:74D3 (talk) 06:33, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

@Bayoka55 @2001:448A:2020:224C:31:6D1B:277A:74D3|2001:448A:2020:224C:31:6D1B:277A:74D3 You are both clearly in an edit conflict. I intervened using a software tool (Huggle) and tagged one of the pages where you are both in conflict before reverting my edit. You should definitely discuss this together on the talk page, and if that's not possible, request external mediation and protection for the pages in question. Best regards, AgisdeSparte (talk) 06:35, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

I'm not your judge and I'm not knowledgeable enough to help you on the matter of knowing if what is done is right. Thus, I don't want to involve myself in this matter too much, since I know nothing about the areas or cultures concerned here. However, I'm sure a lot of WP editors can help you ^^ AgisdeSparte (talk) 06:37, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the enlightenment and being neutral to the issue, could you give me where software tool (Huggle) and tags are. It isn't about the areas or cultures concerned here, but it is about the individual's POV when doing the edits. If you would like to, you could also patrol or supervise on Asian, Southeast Asian, or Indonesian related articles, it isn't a problem. Wikipedia gives a variety of sources, so it is common for having wide-range of sources, while exploring similar content. I would be willing to discuss on the talk page, but the issue should be discussed on the talk page first before reverting or making any changes. Since for instance in Islam in Pakistan [4] and in Islam in Indonesia article [5], I wasn't the first one to add that Pakistan has become the largest Muslim majority country as of 2024, it was another registered user who added that. What I'm only doing is keeping the changes, so if there were someone who wishes to make changes to it, it gotta be agreed in the talk page first as of the WP:BRD policy. 2001:448A:2020:224C:E45F:70DE:CEA1:2A7B (talk) 07:54, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

@AgisdeSparte I've just restored the revision of User:ImperialAficionado here at Siege of Ontala (1599) a new user removing redirects and reverting many pages in Violence of Ban see Hashid khan blocked yesterday with new account he is making many same edits and see this page also Vaghela (Rajput clan)[6][7], Talk:Battle of Haldighati[8][9] before rollback kindly read revision history of any pages Flemish.223.123.8.199 (talk) 10:38, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Revert

I'm wondering why my edit got reverted. There was nothing unconstructive about it. 2600:1700:B090:1AD0:159F:2063:BD38:211A (talk) 21:06, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Because you are removing more than 7500 octets of data on the page Racism against African Americans ? You were lucky that I didn't directly request a block at first, but after you being warned and engaging in an edit war, I did. Best regards. AgisdeSparte (talk) 21:12, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

There's also 2600:1700:B090:1AD0:6C08:41D7:8FE8:C856 who's just another IP from the same person, i guess Myrealnamm (💬pros · ✏️cons) 21:59, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

@Myrealnamm Thanks ; I had to leave watching for some time but it seems it has been taken care of. I wish you good luck in your endeavours on the encyclopedia AgisdeSparte (talk) 22:53, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Anarchism

Hi AgisdeSparte,

I saw your work on articles related to anarchism and wanted to say hello, as I work in the topic area too. If you haven't already, you might want to watch our noticeboard for Wikipedia's coverage of anarchism, which is a great place to ask questions, collaborate, discuss style/structure precedent, and stay informed about content related to anarchism. Take a look for yourself!

We also have a live cleanup drive, if you'd like to participate, and a mailing list if you'd like to be notified of upcoming edit drives.

Feel free to say hi on my talk page and let me know if these links were helpful (or at least interesting). Hope to see you around. czar 13:10, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Christianity in Egypt issue

Hey brother. I noticed you keep reverting my edits even though it’s highly neutral with references. I’m a Christian who lives in Egypt and I’m updating those numbers, and also quoted the current Pope of Alexandria, Pope Tawadros’ statement.

I don’t think Wikipedia should have 2019 data, and it should be updated by people on ground.

Reply to this when you see it Youssefa82718 (talk) 14:38, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Waiting for sockpuppet confirmation or not to respond/delete this message. AgisdeSparte (talk) 22:47, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Hey, I think you can delete these now. 🐢 Monsieur Tortue (💬) 11:22, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Disruptive Edits Warning

Hello, I have seen your severe edits on Christianity in Egypt frankly they make no sense since the edits were not remotely close to being opinions. I have reviewed both edits myself, you have not provided any sources nor references. Please watch out next time. @AgisdeSparte

{{subst:uw-delete1}} Ruenoaman (talk) 15:05, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Waiting for sockpuppet confirmation or not to respond/delete this message. AgisdeSparte (talk) 22:47, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Crowdfunding your edits?

Hey—I noticed you are advertising a Patreon to financially support your editing. This seems like a clear paid conflict of interest issue, and I think it should be removed. Paid editing must be disclosed, and with Patreon who is paying is fluid over time, so this is more problematic than, say, a grant from a specific institution. Remsense诉 21:59, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

@Remsense Good evening, I create articles as I wish, when I wish, and this does not impact my editorial decisions in any way. If someone wants to support me financially, they can do so, but it does not influence what I produce, have produced, or my editorial stance. This is fully allowed on Wikipedia, both on the French and English projects, and is not prohibited, provided that such funding is not secret (which it is not, therefore), and that if I am funded for specific edits, it is clearly disclosed. However, this is not the case as I create what I choose to create and do not take any orders or commissions regarding this.

If the inclusion of the link is the issue, I can remove it without any issue on my part, but Patreon should still be mentioned, to avoid being financially supported without WP knowing it. AgisdeSparte (talk) 22:17, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

WP:PAID says that financial compensation for edits must be disclosed. It is that simple. Because who's paying you is changing over time, you would have to list every supporter in every edit summary at a bare minimum. Remsense诉 22:48, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

@Remsense This only applies in cases where financial contributions cause a conflict of interest in editing, as specified on the page. Patronage, that is, funding a Wikipedian without expecting anything in exchange, is completely allowed, and you yourself mentioned Wikipedians in residence, who have usually full latitude and freedom to contribute on whichever subjects and way they like, even though they receive patronage. I can remove the link if that is what is problematic, as I have mentioned before. Now, if you have any other issues on this matter, we can call in an external administrator to resolve it and clarify what the rules are on Wikipedia. You are involved in organizing the Wikicontest that I just left after expressing my disagreements (including on Patreon), so I find the timing of your remark relatively suspicious. It might be good to call in an external administrator who can remind the rules, especially since you are not taking my response and suggestion regarding the link into account, which seems strange, or at least surprising, in this context. AgisdeSparte (talk) 22:58, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Note also that other users, such as Jlahorn, have intervened on my user page four days(1) ago and did not find anything problematic, as they did not mention any issues and even placed a medal in the relevant section. Best regards, - AgisdeSparte (talk) 23:03, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Any financial compensation is automatically considered to constitute a conflict of interest, as is made crystal clear throughout WP:PAID and WP:COI. Remsense诉 23:16, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

@Remsense You are still not addressing the link issue. Responding with short, peremptory phrases does not make it a reality according to the rules, which you are not following here. I ask you once again, would you like us to call in an external administrator who can remind us of the rules in use on the encyclopedia? This is the best course of action here to reassure you, in my opinion, and to avoid potential conflicts of interest related to your participation in the Wikicontest in question. AgisdeSparte (talk) 23:23, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Other people not mentioning a problem does not mean it does not exist. Please take a closer read over WP:PAID and adjust accordingly, or I'll have to broach this at ANI. Remsense诉 23:34, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

@Remsense The first thing to do, before going to ANI, is to ask for an external intervention to see if it is possible to resolve the problem beforehand. This is also clearly specified in the rules. Since you are refusing such an intervention from an administrator for the second time, or not taking it into account, I will proceed with it anyway. I have noticed that most of your contributions, about 80% (if I'm not mistaken), involve responding to vandalism, and since I will soon be going to bed as we have different schedules, I do not have time to wait for your response, especially to re-explain already explained points.

Since you have extensively worked on vandalism issues, I believe that @Materialscientist is an administrator we both might have encountered at some point, and he will be able to clarify the rules when he intervenes. I am therefore identifying him here, and I assure you that I have no direct or indirect connection with this person. AgisdeSparte (talk) 23:41, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

No, the point of going to ANI is to seek external intervention. It's the administrator's noticeboard, after all. You've notified an administrator yourself though, so I'll hold off. Remsense诉 23:46, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello!

How are you doing? ReallyAmazingDude13 (talk) 16:04, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

@ReallyAmazingDude13 I'm doing 'meh' today, and you ? Do you have any question or anything you want me to answer to ? AgisdeSparte (talk) 16:05, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

I don't have any questions but I am doing great. ReallyAmazingDude13 (talk) 16:06, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Abdalla sabti

You reversed my revision on the Abdalla Sabti entry, due to supposed vandalism. I did not enact any significant modifications to the page and added references for any additional information I included, as well as for the existing information on the entry that was devoid of any references. Solanif (talk) 16:11, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

@Solanif I noticed that you recently made a modification to an article, and I reverted it because it removed some links to other relevant articles. However, I want to let you know that I am not fundamentally opposed to your changes. I think your contribution has merit and can improve the article.

I encourage you to continue editing, but please ensure that the links to related articles are retained. These links are important for providing context and additional information to readers.

Thank you for your understanding and for your contributions to Wikipedia. AgisdeSparte (talk) 16:14, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

I removed those links because their respective pages did not exist. Solanif (talk) 16:19, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

@Solanif I understand your point about the links leading to non-existent pages. I will revert my previous action and restore your contribution.

Good luck with your future edits and contributions to Wikipedia! AgisdeSparte (talk) 16:21, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Barnstar question

Do you need to be in good standing; no warnings or anything to earn a barnstar? ReallyAmazingDude13 (talk) 22:05, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello @ReallyAmazingDude13, I have no idea, and I don't believe it's like that. Probably if you have warnings, it's impacting your standing, but I know that overall, on WP, it can happen that you receive stuff if you calm down or change. Myself had some editorial disputes with other people (I guess it happens to all at some point), and a long time ago, when I was a little child, I probably vandalized the encyclopedia, you know. So no, just work for it and someone will come to reward you with their appreciation and respect ! :) AgisdeSparte (talk) 22:09, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

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I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hi AgisdeSparte. Thank you for your work on Travel of Manuel II to Western Europe. Another editor, Aszx5000, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Nice work - might be better to move it to Journey of Manuel II to Western Europe. thanks

To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with {{Re|Aszx5000}}. (Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

Aszx5000 (talk) 16:47, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

@Aszx5000 Hello ; yes I was considering using 'Journey' at first but I chose not to ultimately. Though with your remark, I think it's better to move it indeed ! Thank you very much for your review of the page :) AgisdeSparte (talk) 17:17, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hi AgisdeSparte. Thank you for your work on École normale supérieure (Atakpamé). Another editor, Klbrain, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Thank you for bringing this translation from the French page; an entirely appropriate topic supported by in-line citations. Linking it from elsewhere on .en would help to integrate it.

To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with {{Re|Klbrain}}. (Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

Klbrain (talk) 17:09, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Category:Therapy 2093 has been nominated for deletion

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Translations from other Wikipedias

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you translated text from French Wikipedia to another page. While you are welcome to translate Wikipedia content, here or elsewhere, Wikipedia's licensing requires that you provide attribution to the contributor(s) of the original article. When translating from a foreign-language Wikipedia article, this is supplied at a minimum in an edit summary on the page where you add translated content, identifying it as a translation and linking it to the source page. For example:

Content in this edit is translated from the existing French Wikipedia article at [[:fr:Exact name of French article]]; see its history for attribution.

It is good practice, especially if translation is extensive, to also place a properly formatted {{translated page}} template on the talk page of the destination article. If you have added translated content previously which was not attributed at the time it was added, you must add attribution retrospectively, even if it was a long time ago. You can read more about author attribution and the reasons for it at Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia.
Note: You are not required to add attribution for translations of articles for which you are the only editor. Please have a look at these 45 contributions and add retroactive attribution for any of those articles that need it. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 05:18, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

@Mathglot Hello ; I'll plan on add the original author. Note that for all articles made recently except for Lucy Kassa, which I translated from German -> French (with massive changes) and then -> English, all of the pages translated are made 100% by me and in fact I translate them a few minutes after their creation on the FR:WP. I'll add the correct licensing to every article, but just wanted to say that I didn't do it bc I'm literaly the author of 99% of them ^^ AgisdeSparte (talk) 05:34, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

@Mathglot Note however that if I didn't link the precise page on the edit summary, I always (or I try to) attribute the page, and I say it's from the same FR:WP (which is linked then through the language panel ofc) and that the page is made by me, see here for example for Anna Zwingli, do I have to still attribute it differently ? AgisdeSparte (talk) 05:38, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

I see how the wording I used can be understood as if I attribute the translation to myself and not the original page, but when I say 'Newly created page on the FR:WP, made by myself' it's to attribute the original page in fact, not the translation. For the translation, I use ChatGPT (which massively reduced the work of reviewers, because if I can speak in English correctly, he speaks in English better ^^) and then I correct what ChatGPT did :) AgisdeSparte (talk) 05:41, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

I see what you mean, and that wasn't clear; probably it's best to stick to the suggested language at WP:TFOLWP for your first edit creating the translation; that wording exists just to avoid possible misunderstandings like this. That said, if attribution is required, then a link *must* be provided, per wmf:ToU#7c. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 05:47, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Thanks for the quick reply. You do not need to add retroactive attribution to articles for which you were the sole author of the French article at the time the English one was published at en-wiki. (But if you created the French article as a translation of a previously existing article at a third Wikipedia, then you *must* credit that article in your creation at French Wikipedia; Wikipedia's licensing requirements apply to all Wikipedias and sister projects.

For those articles here at en-wiki that do need it, be aware of the difference in wording required: WP:TFOLWP is only for articles attributed in the *same edit* in which the article here is created. For articles where you need to add attribution *after* it was created, either because you didn't know or you forgot (the reason does not matter), you need to use the suggested wording at WP:RIA, which is slightly different, and references the previous edit so we know what you are attributing. Thanks again.

Btw, you might have noticed some of my changes to OF TV (thanks for creating it!) and there are some hints you can glean in the edit summaries of my edits there, that may help you with improving the new articles you create at English Wikipedia. If you don't understand any of my edits there or why they are improvements, please ask. Once again, thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia! 05:45, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Category:Ethiopian feminist writers has been nominated for merging

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Please don't create categories for only one person. Mason (talk) 23:52, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Category:Indonesian feminist writers has been nominated for merging

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Category:National security of Togo has been nominated for deletion

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Category:Participant in the First Council of Nicaea has been nominated for renaming

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Category:Participant in the Second Council of Constantinople has been nominated for renaming

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Category:Participant in the Council of Chalcedon has been nominated for renaming

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Wikiproject

Hi, I see you've contributed a lot to Exodus of the Ewe from Notsé, would you be interested in a taskforce on oral tradition? Kowal2701 (talk) 17:41, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

DCWC August update

The 2024 Developing Countries WikiContest has now been running for a month, and we've already seen some momentous improvement in the quality of many articles about underrepresented subjects! So far, our top-scoring participants are:

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please populate the categories you make

I noticed that you made Category:20th-century Algerian women scientists recently. However it only had one person in the category. When you make categories, please populate them with multiple people (4+). Otherwise the category might get accidentally deleted. Mason (talk) 03:39, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

@Smasongarrison Ok, then I'll try to do that ; the issue for a lot of those, such as all the Togolese cats, it's that no other pages exist in a lot of cases (yet) but I felt like the cats were so large that they would fill up over time, since 'Women scientists of...' is clearly very very large. But yes, I'll try that, thank you for the guidelines and see u soon AgisdeSparte (talk) 08:53, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Sure thing! If there's not enough people for the category to be populated, it's better to wait until there's more people. Otherwise, it just makes it much harder to find them when they're hidden in a category by themselves. Mason (talk) 20:51, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Indonesian political writers

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Category:20th-century Indonesian novelists has been nominated for splitting

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Category:21st-century Indonesian novelists has been nominated for merging

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Please populate the categories you make. Mason (talk) 00:07, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Yuval Rozman

Bonjour AgisdeSparte. Un petit mot pour te dire que je me désole de ton départ de fr, tout en en comprenant les raisons (j'ai moi-même été à de multiples reprises été tentée par une telle décision, pour les mêmes motifs - avérés). J'ai une question purement technique sur l'article en référence : pourquoi le portail LGBT ? Je ne trouve pas d'écrit de cet auteur sur ce thème ; quand à sa vie privée, ce ne serait pas suffisant pour y mettre ce portail. Une piste ? Cdlt, Pa2chant.bis (talk) 09:52, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Bonjour @Pa2chant.bis, force à vous tous-tes sur cette question et j'espère que ça deviendra plus vivable avec le temps. En fait, des sources que j'ai pu consulter, une partie des oeuvres de l'artiste concernent ces sujets, par exemple 'Tunnel Boring Machine' a l'air (même si je n'ai pas vu la pièce) de parler de l'histoire d'amour d'un israëlien et d'un palestinien au milieu du conflit qui oppose leurs deux pays. Ca m'a l'air d'être un aspect central de son oeuvre, sur plusieurs pièces, mais c'est vrai que je l'ai peut-être peu souligné dans l'article, et j'aurais du le faire davantage ^^

En tous cas, merci de ton message et force AgisdeSparte (talk) 10:11, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Voilà une source (pas admissible sans doute) mais qui donne un synopsis de l'oeuvre en question : https://www.theatredunord.fr/les-spectacles/saison-2017-2018/tbm AgisdeSparte (talk) 10:14, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Ici une source de Mediapart qui dit 'Le premier, Tunnel Boring Machine, traitait l'aspect politique du conflit à travers l'homosexualité' https://www.mediapart.fr/journal/international/071123/yuval-rozman-israel-est-en-train-de-tomber-dans-le-piege-du-hamas AgisdeSparte (talk) 10:22, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Merci pour ces précisions, du coup je vais laisser le portail. Il vaut mieux que je n'intervienne pas sur tes articles tels que celui-ci ou Nathalie Bosson pour ne pas donner prise aux accusations. Pour l'effet du temps qui passe, j'ai malheureusement l'impression, depuis mon blocage il y a deux ans pour avoir tenté de dissuader sur ma PDD ce contributeur de cesser, que la situation se dégrade de plus en plus. Cdlt, Pa2chant.bis (talk) 10:42, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

@Pa2chant.bis Je pense, mais je ne le savais pas avant de faire ma RA et que plusieurs Wikipédistes viennent me le dire en pv, que le problème vient du fait que cette personne est manifestement protégée par l'administration. Je n'en connais pas les raisons, mais le fait qu'une partie du corps administratif (car il s'agit bien d'un corps, avec des intérêts propres à leur propre classe) soit composé d'hommes d'âge avancé qui sont complètement ignorants (ou nocifs) vis à vis des enjeux de notre époque, est sans doute à pointer du doigt. Il s'agit d'un corps composé (sur le WP:FR) d'hommes blancs qui ont pour la plupart commencé à contribuer dans les années 2000, et qui sont de fait complètement déconnectés de ces enjeux là, ou qui peuvent être prompts à protéger les harceleurs, ce à quoi je viens d'assister. Le fait que l'encyclopédie française penche plus largement vers la droite ou l'extrême droite que le même projet en anglais est aussi bien attesté, mais je pensais qu'on pouvait protéger le projet de leurs attaques et éviter ces problèmes. Mais vous êtes un vieil homme blanc qui est un ami, vous êtes protégé par une mentalité de classe, je ne m'épanderais pas plus, mais ici, avec @Ipigott, @Rosiestep ou @Johnsoniensis, je me sens plus protégé par le groupe et la communauté. Je n'ai pas envie de me prendre la tête avec des personnes qui ont déjà été averties à de multiples reprises pour harcèlement, et couvertes, parfois même en bloquant les victimes, comme vous. Cela explique ma réaction épidermique, et mon retrait complet du projet français ; que ce projet meure et crève de son côté, je ne vais pas faire des efforts pour contribuer à une encyclopédie qui dévore celles et ceux qui essaient d'y contribuer et protège constamment les mêmes personnes qui sont la source de tous ces problèmes. Et qu'après, on ne vienne pas se plaindre que le projet soit constitué de traductions depuis l'anglais, quand on traite ainsi les personnes cherchant à améliorer son contenu en interne. (et je suis loin d'être le plus problématique, j'ai essayé d'intervenir pour demander un blocage d'interactions avec un compte déjà pointé du doigt par de nombreuses contributrices pour harcèlement, avant que ça ne se reproduise, car vous savez aussi bien que moi que si je n'avais pas agi, ça se serait poursuivi, comme ça a été le cas avec d'autres personnes, hélas). Qu'ils protègent, qu'ils protègent, et que leur projet crève. Cette année, j'ai été le sixième plus gros contributeur de l'encyclopédie en français, en comptant les bots, je n'y reviendrais pas, c'est réglé. J'ai assisté à une protection honteuse face à une requête compréhensible. Sur le projet anglais, cette personne serait bloquée indéfiniment dès la première ou deuxième RA, mais là, non seulement elle ne l'est pas, mais en plus elle est protégée constamment.

PS : La page en question vient d'être relue par Ipigott, et comme prévu, il n'y a aucun souci.

Enfin bref, je vous souhaite une bonne chance si vous demeurez là bas, je ne vais pas donner ma jeunesse et ma vie à cette abjection. AgisdeSparte (talk) 13:59, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Bon, je n'ai pas la même analyse que vous sur les administrateurs (on peut être jeune et non blanc, et plus mascu que certains admins blancs et matures ! On peut aussi se rendre compte du pb mais craindre d'être instrumentalisé si on le reconnait...) mais je préfère ne pas entrer dans les détails. Disons qu'il y a une tolérance aux biais de genre assez élevée. Le tout est d'en être conscient et de ne pas se voiler la face. J'ignorais que vous aviez créé autant d'articles, ce qui rend votre départ d'autant plus regrettable. Bonne continuation, et peut-être au plaisir d'échanger dans le cadre des complétudes fr/WIR. --Pa2chant.bis (talk) 14:22, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red

Hi there, AgisdeSparte, and welcome to Women in Red. It's good to have such an experienced editor with wide-ranging interests to help improve Wikipedia's coverage of women. You have already added many biographies of women to both the French and English wikis. We now look forward to many more. I took this opportunity to review and re-assess your EN articles and am pleased to see from your Itools listing that over 60 have reached B or C class ratings. Please let me know if you run into any difficulties or need assistance. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 14:09, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello @Ipigott, I greatly appreciate your words. I am here (and have always been, in reality) more at ease than on the other project (for various external reasons, I'm not saying the people contributing to LSP are the problem, quite the contrary, they work in a very hostile environment). I have seen you go through and review a number of my pages, always considering them with openness and interest, for which I thank you and others. I hope to be of some use to the project and to cross paths again! Best regards, AgisdeSparte (talk) 15:12, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi Agisdesparte, thank you for contributing to the reduction of the gender gap I am awfully sorry to read what happened ! By the way, I am participating to the women in red translating contest until September translating articles of les sans pagEs ! Would you like to join ? Nattes à chat (talk) 17:39, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Théoclite la Thaumaturge

Bonjour Agis,

juste pour te remercier pour ton article sur Théoclite la Thaumaturge en français. Je l'avais très récemment repérée pour le sujet Christianisme, mais je n'ai pas eu le temps de m'y pencher. Je suppose que j'ai relu hier un de tes derniers articles sur la wiki francophone et je n'ai pas vraiment suivi ce qu'il s'est passé pour toi (je viens de lire le poste de Pa2chant.bis à ce sujet...). Bonne continuation sur le projet frère anglophone et dans Woomen in red. Cordialement, Jorune (talk) 06:52, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

@Jorune Bonjour, je me souviens t'avoir croisée souvent, entre deux modifs, et je te remercie de ta sympathie à mon égard, merci de tes encouragements, et je te les rends, bon courage pour la suite et soyez fortes. AgisdeSparte (talk) 15:13, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

@Agis Merci, mais pour le moment aucun risque que je me fasse harcelée : je viens de traduire l'article sur Ellison D. Smith, démocrate suprémaciste blanc du Sud profond opposé au XIXe amendement de la constitution des USA (dont je bleuis peu à peu les liens). Personnellement quand les débats sur l'encyclopédie francophones commencent à me gonfler, ça arrive, je me réfugie sur fr.wikiquote (nous sommes 5 contributeurs et contributrices réguliers et on se prend moins la tête entre nous même si on n'est pas toujours d'accord, si tu veux je t'inviterai pour #Shesaid ? Nous pensons faire une action en faveur des femmes peintres cette année, mais j'ai aussi préparé une palette sur les femmes ministres de RDC).--Jorune (talk) 17:52, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

@Jorune Bonjour, excuse moi pour le temps de réponse (il faisait si chaud, et j'ai voyagé, donc j'ai mis du temps !) Participer à Wikiquote ne m'intéresse pas trop de manière générale, mais je te, et vous, souhaite bon courage pour vos contributions là bas, en tous cas. Au plaisir de te revoir ici ou ailleurs ^^ AgisdeSparte (talk) 09:47, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Tellement énervé !

Bonjour @AgisdeSparte euh hello ! Je parle dans quelle langue ici ? 🤔^^ Je viens de faire un tour sur la page des RA (depuis quelques jours je ne l'ai plus en LdS et je pense que c'est bien comme ça d'ailleurs - j'ai bu ma tasse) et je suis tombé sur ta requête. Et le fait que je ne sois plus sur Discord a retardé cela. Je suis franchement frustré de ce départ. Eh oui, ça devient vraiment pas soutenable à ce rythme. Mais j'espère que tu seras à l'aise par ici, ce qui est déjà le cas depuis le temps que tu es sur l'anglophone. Après tout, contribuer doit rester un plaisir. Je te souhaite de belles contributions à venir ! On se reverra 😉 ElsaBester (talk) 22:26, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

@ElsaBester Ton message me fait très plaisir Elsa, je te souhaite de poursuivre avec force et autant de savoir et de bonnes choses que celles que j'ai pu constater lorsque nous avons contribué ou discuté ensemble. Je suis toujours disponible ici si jamais et oui, on se reverra très certainement ! AgisdeSparte (talk) 09:45, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

DdA

{{subst:Avertissement débat d'admissibilité|Georgette Barsoum}} Coucou Agis, je sais que le bandeau ne fonctionne pas ici, mais tu comprendras :) Wikipédiennement. Slzbg (talk) 18:32, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

September 2024 at Women in Red

Women in Red | September 2024, Volume 10, Issue 9, Numbers 293, 294, 311, 316, 317 Online events: New: Women writers & their works | Geofocus: Islands A - H Continuing: #1day1woman | Education (year-long initiative) | Translation contest 2024 (Jul, Aug, Sep) Announcements from other communities August 30 is the tenth anniversary of WikiProject Women writers! Tip of the month: Try her pen name when searching for sources, and remember to add her to any of these that apply: List of pen names, List of literary initials, and Category:Pseudonymous women writers. Other ways to participate: Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help us plan future events and add any general ideas on developing the project. Follow us on social media: Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter/X

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Pyramiden Edits

First, sorry for the confusion. I do believe I reversed the reversed edits without making any changes by mistake. I'm in a bit of a quandary though. The only reliable source is really just the game itself. That being said, the only way to show the game is through something Wikipedia deems unreliable like Youtube. All I can give you is the trailer, a full video of the story, and post showing comparisons. Some of the buildings, sidewalks, braziers, etc... are recreated nearly 1:1 in the game. Maybe we could add the comparison images as a source? Maybe you have an idea what we could do as it would be a shame for those visiting and learning about Pyramiden to not know about the work the Bluepoch developers did.

Farewell, Rayashki Trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epwVINCR53A Farewell, Rayashki Playthrough https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCpok5bycyg Comparison images post: https://1234mira.tumblr.com/post/759129522486575104 136.244.58.18 (talk) 06:46, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your message. On Wikipedia, if the information isn't supported by an external reliable source, it shouldn't be included in the encyclopedia. This doesn't mean the information is incorrect, but without reliable sources, we can't incorporate it into the article. Additionally, you've included details in the article that pertain to the future, which is generally discouraged since we can't predict what might happen—like the game possibly being removed from Steam by the devs, for example. In this case, the best approach is to wait for reliable, non-self-published sources to become available over time. AgisdeSparte (talk) 08:35, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Queen Claude's Down Syndrome

I have noticed you edited her page to include this, but I'm curious because after many years of reading about Queen Claude and King Francis, I've never seen it mentioned. What prompted this? @Bialessasoares 1 septembre 2024 à 06:12 (CEST) AgisdeSparte (talk) 08:50, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello @Bialessasoares,

I’m responding here; I had come across the fact that Queen Claude was likely affected by Down syndrome during my research (out of curiosity) on the status and treatment of people with Down syndrome during the Middle Ages and earlier periods. Contrary to what I had expected (but with experience and readings, it seems more logical to me now), people with Down syndrome were not actually discriminated against in earlier times, mainly because, before the genetic studies of the 19th century, the knowledge of this condition was not identified at all. Among the earliest known cases of individuals with Down syndrome, Queen Claude is one of the oldest attested and relatively correctly identified as having had the condition. I had set this aside thinking it was already included on her page, but when @Pronoia brought up the topic of Queen Claude on Discord and Twitter, we discussed it, and I was told that it wasn’t listed on her page at all. So, I spent some time gathering sources before adding this information, which seems useful and interesting for both the history of this queen and the history of Down syndrome. Best regards, AgisdeSparte (talk) 08:56, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

As a small anecdote, the only earlier reference than Queen Claude that seems to mention individuals with Down syndrome is a passage from a letter by Bernard of Clairvaux. In it, he describes having gathered people with 'strange faces' whom he was unable to teach to say mass, complains a bit about considering them 'idiots,' and ultimately decides to make them scribes, as he believes that suits them better. However, these individuals mentioned by Bernard of Clairvaux are anonymous, though the description seems to fit Down syndrome well. It should be noted that, in my humble opinion, it might not have been uncommon for families to send their children with Down syndrome to monasteries (for a variety of reasons, the most important being their relative inability to help with household chores and the difficulty families had in caring for them at that time). Therefore, it is very likely that monastic communities had a higher proportion of individuals with Down syndrome compared to the general society. All of this is, of course, speculative, but Bernard of Clairvaux's passage seems to refer to individuals with Down syndrome. AgisdeSparte (talk) 09:01, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Wikiconcours sur WP:FR

Bonjour AgisdeSparte. Le 13 septembre commence un wikiconcours sur la Wikipedia en français (fr:Wikipédia:Wikiconcours/septembre 2024). Est-ce que ça vous dirait d'y participer en travaillant sur un thème touchant au Togo ? Même si je crois avoir compris que vous ne contribuez plus qu'ici. Bonne après-midi, Rectrice Argentée (talk) 13:55, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

September 2024

Your recent editing history at Claude of France shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:36, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

@Liz Ok ok, bye AgisdeSparte (talk) 02:32, 2 September 2024 (UTC)