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Category:Percussion instruments by tradition

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 December 11#Category:Percussion instruments by tradition

Category:Suzie Wong

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 13:05, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization by association. Apart from the original novel, "franchise" article (which it's not entirely clear needs to exist as a separate topic from the original novel at all) and the articles about the film and stage adaptations, everything else here is either a person who was somehow involved with one of those things (in violation of WP:PERFCAT) or a documentary film about an actress who was in the film (cross-referencing both PERFCAT and ASSOC errors.) And if everything that doesn't actually belong here at all was removed, what was left would just be a WP:SMALLCAT, and not particularly necessary anyway since they're all already crosslinked by a navigational box. Bearcat (talk) 20:41, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Vulgarity

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 13:06, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT of unclear necessity, serving only to link the eponym itself with one article about a particular type of vulgarity -- but both articles already crosslink each other in body text as it is, meaning there's no pressing need for a category to group them together. Bearcat (talk) 19:47, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Swoope

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 13:07, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Eponymous categories for musicians without the volume of spinoff content needed to justify an eponymous category. As always, every musician who exists does not automatically get one of these just because he has an albums category, a songs category and a BLP -- he needs to have a significant volume of additional spinoff content that needs categorization for its relationship to him but doesn't already fit into established songs and albums category schemes -- such as books about him, films about him, and on and so forth. Bearcat (talk) 19:31, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Family of Charan Singh

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 13:08, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT for the person named in the category title, his son and his grandson, based solely on family association. As at Family of Rajendra Prasad below, we do not automatically need one of these the moment two or three people with Wikipedia articles happen to be related to each other -- the basis for one of these would be if the "Singh family" were itself a topic of collective coverage and analysis as a group, which hasn't been demonstrated in any of the articles, and even if it were there would still need to be considerably more than just three people to file in it regardless. Bearcat (talk) 19:25, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:All World Gayatri Pariwar

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 13:09, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Eponymous category for a topic that doesn't have a Wikipedia article about it to explain what it is or why it would be defining of the contents. The eponym exists on Wikipedia only as a redirect to a place it's associated with, not as an article about it as a thing, and the contents of the article are that place, two people associated with it, and a university that happens to be located in that same area but whose article entirely fails to explain any connection to the topic beyond geographic proximity. This is not sufficient basis for an eponymous category at all. And meanwhile, the "Members of AWGP" category only contains the same two people and a redirect. Bearcat (talk) 19:21, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Family of Rajendra Prasad

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 13:11, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT for the person named in the category title, his wife and one of their children, based solely on family association. As always, we do not automatically need one of these the moment two or three people with Wikipedia articles happen to be related to each other -- the basis for one of these would be if the "Prasad family" were itself a topic of collective coverage and analysis as a group, which hasn't been demonstrated in any of the articles, and even if it were there would still need to be considerably more than just three people to file in it regardless. Bearcat (talk) 19:14, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Films with make-up by Stan Winston

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 13:11, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Two isolated categories for films on a non-defining characteristic. We don't have any established scheme of "Films by make-up artist" for these to be part of -- these (both newly created within the past week) are the only "Films with make-up by So-and-So" categories that exist at all. And since films aren't defined by the matter of who did their make-up, there's no value in starting a new comprehensive scheme for this now -- but there's also no credible reason why Stan Winston or Rick Baker would be of such rarefied ubernotability as to require special treatment that other make-up artists aren't getting, either. Bearcat (talk) 18:55, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:YELP Fellows

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 13:12, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT for just two people, based on membership in a youth organization (no, not what you're thinking) that isn't highly prominent enough to count as a defining characteristic of these people. And even if it could be expanded enough to justify keeping it, it would likely have to be renamed for clarity anyway, given that I had to include a "not what you're thinking" proviso above. Bearcat (talk) 18:42, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:St John fleet

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 13:14, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category of unclear utility. The usage note here says that "the Vehicle fleet of St John Ambulance consists of a variety of vehicles from brands such as; Mercedes Benz, Toyota, Hyundai, Isuzu and Volkswagen" -- but the fact that St. John Ambulance happens to use a particular brand of vehicle wouldn't be a WP:DEFINING characteristic of the vehicle manufacturer, so there's no basis for categorizing Mercedes Benz or Toyota or Hyundai or Isuzu or Volkswagen here, and the only article actually filed in the category is one country's particular St. John Ambulance organization, which is a clear misfile as the organization is not literally a vehicle. Bearcat (talk) 18:34, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Underserved indigenous languages

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 13:15, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category with subjective inclusion criteria. This describes the topic of "underserved" languages as "those with a small literary corpus", but there's no clear or objective criteria for how small the literary corpus has to be in order to be small enough. Bearcat (talk) 18:30, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Songs about body positivity

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 13:15, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT for just one song. As always, "Songs about [topic]" does not automatically need to exist for every possible topic anybody could possibly sing a song about -- it would require at least five or six articles, not just one, and it would require "songs about body positivity" to represent a collective grouping that reliable sources have already identified and analyzed as a topic in its own right. Bearcat (talk) 18:25, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:X in Boston by neighborhood

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 13:16, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT and WP:NARROWCAT. These small categories for individual neighborhoods of Boston hurt navigation. User:Namiba 18:25, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge, per nom. Might be worth noting that these small cats were created by a user who has a longtime habit of such activity. Eric talk 20:52, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've double-checked and each article is now in the neighborhood category as well. No dual merge is necessary.--User:Namiba 17:34, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note I've added several similar subcategories. The only articles within then already in appropriate subcategories.--User:Namiba 18:31, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge Ultimately, it makes more sense to have a single category as it will be easier for the reader to find what he's looking for. Pichpich (talk) 23:38, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Lost Media

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 13:18, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category of unclear necessity. The contents here are not individual works of lost media, but concept articles about "Lost [type of media]" (artworks, film, literature, television) — but all of them are already categorized in Category:Lost works (either directly or through a subcategory) as it is, making this essentially just redundant to another category that already exists. Bearcat (talk) 18:09, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Trilateral Commission members

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 13:19, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category that was previously deleted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 January 26#Category:Members of the Trilateral Commission. As that was 15 years ago and consensus can change, I'm listing it for discussion rather than just speedy deleting it as a recreation of previously deleted content -- but it's still not entirely clear that this would be a defining characteristic of the people listed here, so CFD needs to weigh in one way or the other. Bearcat (talk) 18:04, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Minor planets by source of name, redux

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The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 20:34, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Parent category Category:Minor planets named from mythology was deleted a couple of weeks ago per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 November 14#Astronomical objects by source of name as a violation of WP:SHAREDNAME, but these were left behind even though the issues aren't substantively different — if the parent category isn't defining enough to exist, then the child categories inherently aren't defining enough to exist either. But conversely, if the child categories are defining enough to exist, then the parent category is necessary to keep them together and has to be restored, not least because the deletion of the parent left a couple of these completely orphaned from the category tree. Bearcat (talk) 17:45, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:World Junior Table Tennis Championships

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 December 11#Category:World Junior Table Tennis Championships

Category:National members of the European Union of Gymnastics

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 December 11#Category:National members of the European Union of Gymnastics

Category:American settlers

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 December 11#Category:American settlers

Category:Soviet people of Ukrainian descent

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 13:23, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, after the split as decided in this previous discussion this is all that is left in the descent category. It does not seem worthwhile to keep. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:50, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Star Magic Batch 1-21

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 13:25, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: These categories are examples of WP:PERFCAT. User:Namiba 14:42, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 08:44, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fine with deletion as well.--User:Namiba 18:31, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sexual affairs in the Evangelical Church

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Sexual abuse scandals in Protestantism. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 20:29, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: "Sexual affairs" has a certain connotation that is unwelcome and rather limiting in this topic. I propose "Sexual abuse scandals" for parity with Catholic Church categories. Elizium23 (talk) 09:26, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, I created this category. I worded the text incorrectly, sorry. I agree with Elizium23's proposal. I wish you a nice day. Langladure (talk) 09:57, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Senator2029: How do you feel about "sexual abuse scandals" in the Catholic Church? Is that too specific? Should we recategorize into adultery and fornication scandals? What about abuse of power scandals, which is what they really are? Elizium23 (talk) 00:40, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 23:10, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 08:23, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Horses in mythology

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The result of the discussion was: reverse merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:32, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Categories are redundant and overlap. RaidRexx (talk) 04:22, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 23:13, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 08:20, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Latin percussion

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 December 11#Category:Latin percussion

American people of European descent by occupation

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 December 11#American people of European descent by occupation

Medieval scientists

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 December 11#Medieval scientists

Category:American men podcasters

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 13:30, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Men/male doesn't meet WP:OCEGRS requirements. (The equivalent Category:British men podcasters was deleted on the same grounds in this discussion earlier this year.)
Elemenopee9 (talk) 06:16, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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