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July 2024

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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

  1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
  2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing.sbaio 13:40, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sbaio, I made just one revert. How is that an edit war? Which Wikipedia policy says that one revert is an edit war (barring some projects where 1RR applies)? I think you might have considered my latest edit as a revert, which it wasn't. I simply changes 'S' → 's'. PadFoot (talk) 13:43, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Information icon Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit(s) you made to History of Hinduism, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 16:46, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Information icon Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at History of Hinduism. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.

Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Edit-warring again; how many warnings do you need? Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 18:12, 16 July 2024 (UTC) Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 18:12, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mate, what you are doing is edit warring as well. PadFoot (talk) 18:19, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop your disruptive editing.

If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at History of Hinduism, you may be blocked from editing. Stop edit-warring; one more revert and I'll report you. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 19:02, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Page mover granted

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Hello, PadFoot2008. Your account has been granted the "extendedmover" user right, either following a request for it or demonstrating familiarity with working with article names and moving pages. You are now able to rename pages without leaving behind a redirect, move subpages when moving the parent page(s), and move category pages.

Please take a moment to review Wikipedia:Page mover for more information on this user right, especially the criteria for moving pages without leaving a redirect. Please remember to follow post-move cleanup procedures and make link corrections where necessary, including broken double-redirects when suppressredirect is used. This can be done using Special:WhatLinksHere. It is also very important that no one else be allowed to access your account, so you should consider taking a few moments to secure your password. As with all user rights, be aware that if abused, or used in controversial ways without consensus, your page mover status can be revoked.

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If you do not want the page mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing! Primefac (talk) 15:20, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Primefac (talk · contribs) Please remove the page mover right from this user. This user was told below not to move pages unilaterally against consensus but has continued to do so. Celia Homeford (talk) 12:27, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Primefac and @Celia Homeford, I apologise for the poor judgement on my part regarding the case of British Indian Army. I thought it would be a good idea to be consistent with the other army related articles like German Army (1935–1945), and since it was the common name as well, I decided to move it. I realise that move was a poor choice as I had not checked the talk page for prior RMs and thus was not aware at the time of the move that there had been a prior RM regarding this case 14 years ago which moved it from Indian Army (1895–1947) to British Indian Army. It was a mistake on my part and if I had been made aware I would have myself self-reverted my move. Also though I had been warned below not to move pages unilaterally, I had not actually moved any page unilaterally, and the warning was given by Liz after I moved Polish–Russian War (1605–1618) after this RM in the article talk page. None of my other moves have been reverted as well other than one error in case of an en dash, which I acknowledged and rectified. PadFoot (talk) 12:45, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Please try to be more careful. Celia Homeford (talk) 13:06, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, thanks a lot. I'll be more careful with any moves I make in the future and make sure to always check the talk pages (and the archives) for prior RMs and discussions. PadFoot (talk) 13:16, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Um, @Primefac? PadFoot (talk) 13:40, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You are welcome to request the perm again, but you will need a convincing argument as to why the issues below, and the issues raised at your initial request, are no longer an issue. Primefac (talk) 13:58, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done, I've requested the perm again. PadFoot (talk) 17:58, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Terrible page moves

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Information icon Please do not move a page to a title that is harder to follow, or move it unilaterally against naming conventions or consensus. This includes making page moves while a discussion remains underway. We have some guidelines to help with deciding what title is best for a subject. If you would like to experiment with page titles and moving, please use the test Wikipedia. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 17:31, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What is with all of these unnecessary page moves? I'm cleaning up about a dozen broken redirects from all of your terrible page moves. These were thoughtlessly done. If this happens again, I will remove your page mover right as you are causing damage with it rather than solving problems. Liz Read! Talk! 17:34, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Liz, I am extremely sorry and I apologise for all the inconveniences caused by me. This was my first round robin move, and I am going to make sure something like this never happens again. PadFoot (talk) 17:39, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
PadFoot, regarding your second set of moves, reverting from Afghan–Maratha War did not require a round-robin swap. You should have just moved it directly back. You can move a page to another title with a redirect so long as that redirect has never been edited. See WP:MOR (possible for all autoconfirmed editors) and WP:PMR#delete-redirect (possible for page movers).
Also, when a round-robin swap is necessary, you should suppress the redirect on all three moves. (WP:ROBIN "Note: Redirects are suppressed during all moves in the round-robin page move process.") As it is, you left an extra redirect at Draft:Move/Afghan–Maratha War that you should nominate for speedy deletion with {{db-g6|rationale=redirect created during a [[WP:ROBIN|round-robin]] swap that should have been suppressed per [[WP:PMRC#4]]}}.
I recommend using User:Ahecht/Scripts/pageswap to avoid mistakes during round-robin swaps – and just to make them easier in general. It reduces, but does not eliminate, the chance of causing Liz (or less likely me) to come to your talk page. SilverLocust 💬 03:59, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done, that's for telling me about this. I will try to make sure I don't do anything that might cause you or Liz to come to my talk page :) PadFoot (talk) 04:05, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Also, those moves of war articles to use hyphens are incorrect per MOS:DUALNATIONALITIES. See examples like Mexican–American War, Philippine–American War, 1948 Arab–Israeli War, Chechen–Russian conflict, Swedish–Norwegian War, Soviet–Afghan War. SilverLocust 💬 03:10, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@SilverLocust, I wasn't fully aware of MOS:DUALNATIONALITIES, thanks for informing me about it. So, if a combining form like Franco- or Anglo- is used we use a hyphen, but if something like Polish or Swedish is used we use an en dash? That's interesting. I wonder why some nationalities don't have a combining form, while others do. PadFoot (talk) 12:44, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I also fixed Polish–Russian War (1609–1618) [1] which I had recently moved per the move discussion in the talk page (regarding the dates). PadFoot (talk) 12:49, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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A Issue

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A guy reverted my edit on Rana Sanga' article. I published a academic Atlas replacing Non Academic atlas while he reverted my edit and than I Again Reverted his edit, But I am sure that It will turn into a Edit-War. You can look the matter Dooblts (talk) 14:24, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate your response to the Rana Sanga article. I would like you to review the Rajput articles as well, just as you did with the Maratha articles, selecting many for deletion. The situation is even worse with the Rajput articles. For example, the articles on the Battles of Idar and Rana Sanga's invasions of Gujarat, as well as many other articles associated with the rulers of Mewar, Marwar, and other Rajput kingdoms, are problematic. I have tagged some quality editors like you and Flemish Nietzsche to look into this matter. Dooblts (talk) 15:46, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Return of Sock of DeccanFlood

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hello, PadFoot2008, i found the sockpuppet of DeccanFlood, Chauthcollector is a sock of DeccanFlood. DeccanFlood not using his old id because DeccanFlood several times has been blocked so he using his 4 months old id Chauthcollector. 2409:40D6:1D:BF4B:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 15:38, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Palestine

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When closing an RM in a controversial topic area, an explanation is in order. Srnec (talk) 02:07, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Srnec, I had thought that an explanation is required only in cases where consensus is not sufficiently clear? PadFoot (talk) 08:08, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Like here, you mean! No clear consensus at all. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:37, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But I count a 14-to-8 support for the move (including the nom). PadFoot (talk) 12:01, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But not strong arguments. For example: a widely recognized albeit occupied state. So what? We know that. That's not an argument. in modern times this is the primary topic. Pure POV. All the supporters seemed to base their support on arguments like this or on pageviews, completely ignoring long-term significance. In addition, the problem, of course, with topics like Palestine is that they are politically sensitive and people may be arguing one or another POV for political reasons. This also needs to be taken into consideration. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:10, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The page "The Maratha rebellion"

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The page you have distorted,"the Maratha rebellion" didn't existed earlier. The Deccan wars was the conflict after the death of Shivaji but the maratha rebellion was started in 1644 under the leadership of Shivaji. Both are different topic, Deccan wars was fought under the reign of Sambhaji, not Shivaji. Sir, please restore and reconvert my page as it was earlier. Thank you. This is my unlogged account, I'm @historyenjoyer10, the creator of that page. 2409:408A:8D43:1FCB:ACFF:4A52:7A2A:7032 (talk) 14:42, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Historyenjoyer10, please do not use an IP to edit Wikipedia, as that is sockpuppetry. Please use your Wikipedia account only. Anyways, in brief:
  1. The term "Maratha Rebellion" as well other similar terms like Maratha Insurgency, Maratha Uprising, etc. most commonly refer to the Deccan wars.
  2. The rebellions and various conquests under Shivaji were not a singular conflict. They were different and unrelated and thus shouldn't be presented as a singular conflict.
  3. Shivaji's military conflicts are already covered in great detail in the main article Shivaji itself.
Also do not edit war. Discuss your issues here or on the talk page of that page. PadFoot (talk) 17:19, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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July 2024

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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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  1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
  2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing.

Second warning: you're edit-warring. @Doug Weller and Abecedare: for admin-feedback. See Talk:History of Hinduism#"Ancient Hinduism". Thanks. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 09:25, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You are edit warring as well. Should say that you've started the edit war. And I've provided you a warning earlier as well. Also a "second warning"? In what? PadFoot (talk) 09:29, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Scroll through your talkpage, to see how many warnings you've received for edit-warring. When an addition is unsourced and controversial, you don't push through, you discuss. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 09:35, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The addition is not unsourced. As for the question of how many warnings I've received here — that's only 1 from Sbaio. Another one was issued in error I believe, as I had self-reverted which the warner thought to be a revert by mistake. Also my period in this talk page is every 3 months (unlike your once a week). Or else, the answer to the above question would've been none. PadFoot (talk) 09:42, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A cup of tea for you!

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You're as stubborn as me. Cheers, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 10:44, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, mate. The good thing is that we always arrive at a consensus at the end :) PadFoot (talk) 11:06, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Page move request

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Hello Padfoot2008, can you move the page Gurjara-Pratihara dynasty to Pratihara dynasty or Imperial Pratiharas because Gujara Pratihara is not a common name used for this dynasty see WP:COMMONNAME Ngram. Pratihara dynasty is the most used word for this dynasty followed by Imperial Pratiharas. Moreover, this title of the page Gurjara Pratihara triggers the recent Rajput-Gujjar conflict regarding the origin of Pratihara dynasty. Raged Pratihar (talk) 04:27, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but I don't have page mover rights any more. Even if I had the rights, I still would not have performed the move as it would have been a unilateral move and very likely controversial. PadFoot (talk) 05:09, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

August 2024

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Information icon Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit(s) you made to History of Hinduism, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 12:19, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Information icon Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit(s) you made to Maurya Empire, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Take a very good look at those sources; they don't support "Hinduism" Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 08:39, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Harassment

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Can you stop stalking me ? diff. "Hindu kingdoms" is completely anachronistic for the Vedic period; your only point is to push back "Hinduism" as far back as you deem possible - in this case impossible. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 03:37, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, if I wanted to "push back Hinduism" as far as I wanted, I would've claimed (incorrectly) that Hinduism existed since the prehistoric era as some claim. But you would know that I've opposed tooth and nail any such claims that Hinduism existed prior to the Vedic period and the religions in prehistoric India were not even in the slightest "Hinduism". I am not "stalking or harassing" you, I am only keeping an eye on you for now as you are continuing to unilaterally push your own view and you appear to be determined to "pull back" Hinduism as near to the present time as possible. PadFoot (talk) 06:59, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is harassment: reverting an edit from almost a year ago. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 09:50, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, it's not. I saw your recent edit to the page, and decided to see if you had made any other unilateral edit. PadFoot (talk) 15:42, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Noticeboard discussion

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Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Ixudi (talk) 18:31, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Have a look

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Saw your edits in the article, you may be interested in this change. Note that the ID is a sock and got blocked few minutes back. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 19:00, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for informing me. I have looked into the issue. PadFoot (talk) 19:28, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]