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Latest comment: 1 year ago by 211.30.17.2 in topic Thresome

Not sure if this will work, but if it messess up something just delete the page. Cbrown1023 talk 15:06, 24 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

New buttons text

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   mwCustomEditButtons[mwCustomEditButtons.length] = {
     "imageFile": "
     "speedTip": "Insert a half-width horizontal line (used in between dialogues)"
     "tagOpen": "<hr width="50%/>"
     "tagClose": "",
     "sampleText": ""};

   mwCustomEditButtons[mwCustomEditButtons.length] = {
     "imageFile": "http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/Button_user_talk.png",
     "speedTip": "Insert a dialog speaker"
     "tagOpen": ":'''",
     "tagClose": "''':",
     "sampleText": "Insert speaker's name"};

   mwCustomEditButtons[mwCustomEditButtons.length] = { 
     "imageFile": "    ",
     "speedTip": "Insert a context line",
     "tagOpen": ":''[",
     "tagClose": "]''",
     "sampleText": "Insert the scene's context"};

   mwCustomEditButtons[mwCustomEditButtons.length] = {
     "imageFile": "
     "speedTip": "Insert a stage direction",
     "tagOpen": "''["
     "tagClose": "]''"
     "sampleText": "Insert a stage direction"};

Dialog icon images

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For the "dialog speaker" button, instead of a quote-balloon icon, I'd prefer to have something that shows a person talking. A quote balloon implies the selected text is the quote, not the quotee. I'm sifting through the Commons images for some ideas.

I had had this until the last moment but then changed i because it looked unprofessional, but I will add it now instead. Cbrown1023 talk 12:51, 25 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

For the context line and stage direction icons, I'm also at a loss how to imply these, especially given that the edit-toolbar context is for all Wikiquote editing, not just for articles with dialog segments. (Examples: A hook in front of curtains could imply "stage direction" in a screenplay (dialog) context, but what might it look like to folks editing talk pages, policy pages, or literature articles? A globe might imply "context description", but not in such a general editing context.)

Another problem with context-line/stage-description is that their formatting is almost identical. The former is a full, separate sentence used to describe the scene, which is needed to locate the quote within the overall work (as the screen version of page numbers and a substitute for timecodes). The latter is an extremely terse (typically only a single word) direction included only when the quote can't be understood without it, inserted into the actual quote text, and should be avoided whenever possible. But both are italicized bracketed text. (The only formatting difference is the necessary indent for the context line, as it stands alone on its own line.) I thought about creating an italicized bracketed icon with something like [scene], but even experienced editors might not realize it's a context icon and not a stage direction icon.

These are the kinds of things that typically keep me from taking action on these long-standing issues. ☺ Anyway, those are my thoughts for the moment. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 04:23, 25 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

Here are some icons I found so far in Commons that have some conceivable connection to three of the functions above:
Looking over them, I can't say I'm happy with almost any of them, frankly. What I'd really like to have is:
  • Dialog speaker: a profile head with open mouth with sound lines emitting from it
  • Scene description (aka context line): either something that looks like a setting (maybe a city silhouette?) or a film strip (like some we have above)
  • Stage direction: a curtain with a hook, or perhaps a head with a hand positioned as if whispering, or one head whispering to another (although fitting that into a 22x23-pixel button with a blue background may be challenging)
I did grab the horizontal-line button from the standard toolbar and made a half-width button from it and a blank button (with the shaded background) over which to superimpose anything we decide. The problem is that none of this is permissable unless we know the license status of the originals, which is why we need the image description pages for these buttons. If they're okay for any reuse, I can upload my versions with appropriate license and credit to the originals. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 13:09, 25 March 2007 (UTC)Reply
I've replied to that on the VP. :) Cbrown1023 talk 13:12, 25 March 2007 (UTC)Reply
I've added my half-width line button mentioned above, as well as a basic city-silhouette button for "scene description". The "stage direction" button will take some more cogitation, I think. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 03:17, 27 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

Thresome

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This film article is a stub. You can help Wikiquote by expanding it. 211.30.17.2 14:20, 9 December 2022 (UTC)Reply