Steward requests/Permissions
This page is for requests to have stewards grant or revoke administrator, bureaucrat, checkuser, and oversight rights on Wikimedia projects which do not have a local permissions procedure.
Old sections are archived. The list of archives is below.
- Requests for bot flags are handled at SRB, and requests for global permissions are handled at SRGP.
- If you are requesting adminship or bureaucratship, and your wiki has a local bureaucrat, submit your request to that user or to the relevant local request page (index).
- For urgent requests, such as to combat large-scale vandalism on a small wiki, contact a steward in the #wikimedia-stewardsconnect IRC channel. In emergencies, type
!steward
in the channel to get the attention of stewards. Otherwise, you can type@steward
for non-urgent help.
Other than requests to remove your own access or emergencies, please only make requests here after gaining the on-wiki approval of your local community.
Quick navigation: Administrator | Interface administrator | Bureaucrat | CheckUser | Oversight | Removal of access | Miscellaneous | Global permissions
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Meta-Wiki requests |
Using this page
[edit]1. Place the following code at the bottom of the appropriate section below:
==== Username@xxproject ==== {{sr-request |status = <!-- don't change this line --> |domain = <!-- such as en.wikibooks --> |user name = |discussion= }} (your remarks) ~~~~
2. Fill in the values:
- domain: the wiki's URL domain (like "ex.wikipedia" or "meta.wikimedia").
- user name: the name of the user whose rights are to be changed (like "Exampleuser"). In case you're requesting access for multiple bots, leave this field blank and give a list of these bots in your remarks
- discussion: a link to the local vote or discussion about the rights change (for example, "[[ex:Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship#ExampleUser]]"). This should normally be for at least one week, but no more than three weeks (if so, you'll need to restart the process).
3. If anything is missing from your request, a steward will request more information.
Confirmation of signing confidentiality agreement
[edit]Certain permissions (notably CheckUser and Oversight) additionally require users to sign a confidentiality agreement. Users requesting these permissions must make a request below, and must also sign the confidentiality agreement with the Wikimedia Foundation. The request is placed on hold temporarily, until the receipt has been formally confirmed by the Office.
Requests
[edit]Administrator access
[edit]See Administrator for information about this user group.
- If you are requesting adminship to handle one time vandalism incidents or clearing a deletion backlog, please see Steward requests/Miscellaneous.
- MediaWiki interface translations are done at translatewiki.net. Please do not request administrator access solely for that purpose; your request will be declined.
- Admins doing cross-wiki work may wish to see IRC/wikimedia-admin for information about joining #wikimedia-adminconnect.
- Stewards: Please use {{Systmp}} for approved temporary requests.
Requests for removal of access should be posted at the section below.
Please start a new discussion about requesting the permission on the local village pump, administrators' noticeboard or a designated page for requesting permissions each time you request or renew adminship.
- Discussions should be open for seven days. Please request adminship here seven days after discussions started. This page is not the place for any discussions or votes. (For wikis with few active users, it is OK to have no comments.)
- If you only want adminship for specific tasks, please state for how long and for which tasks you need it. Otherwise stewards will decide whether to assign permanent adminship and the duration of adminship. See Steward requests/Permissions/Minimum voting requirements.
Mazbel@glwikibooks
[edit]- Wiki: gl.wikibooks.org (list 'crats • bot policy • summary • 'crats rights)
- User: Mazbel (talk • edits • logs • UserRights • activity • CentralAuth • email • verify 2FA)
- Discussion: here
Mazbel (Talk) 18:03, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- I happened to notice that you were desysopped for cause on another wiki some years ago [1]. Although I'm inclined to grant this since it was quite some time ago, I'm going to place this
On hold pending discussion. EPIC (talk) 18:15, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- @EPIC: Yes, old story, time of immaturity. I believe that after 10 years of what I have done, the lesson has been learned as I have gained more experience in Wiki projects. If you consider it appropriate, I authorize you to perform CU revision if pertinent. --Mazbel (Talk) 19:15, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Granted for 3 months to expire on 2024-11-14. To prolong your (interface) adminship, please start another election a few days before your temporary access expires, and after a week post your request again to this page. Thanks.
- 10 years is probably long enough to learn, so I am granting the rights - I don't think a CU is needed given the amount of time passed. EPIC (talk) 21:35, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- @EPIC: Yes, old story, time of immaturity. I believe that after 10 years of what I have done, the lesson has been learned as I have gained more experience in Wiki projects. If you consider it appropriate, I authorize you to perform CU revision if pertinent. --Mazbel (Talk) 19:15, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Allanur77@tkwikipedia
[edit]- Wiki: tk.wikipedia.org (list 'crats • bot policy • summary • 'crats rights)
- User: Allanur77 (talk • edits • logs • UserRights • activity • CentralAuth • email • verify 2FA)
- Discussion: Wikipediýa:Ýolbaşçylyk saýlawy
Allanur77 (talk) 09:13, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
Granted for 1 year to expire on 2025-08-12. To prolong your (interface) adminship, please start another election a few days before your temporary access expires, and after a week post your request again to this page. Thanks. EPIC (talk) 09:18, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Tahnks! Allanur77 (talk) 08:55, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
Umarxon III@uzwiktionary
[edit]- Wiki: uz.wiktionary.org (list 'crats • bot policy • summary • 'crats rights)
- User: Umarxon III (talk • edits • logs • UserRights • activity • CentralAuth • email • verify 2FA)
- Discussion: Here
Hello! I am re-submitting my candidacy due to the upcoming deadline. Umarxon III (talk) 19:12, 15 August 2024 (UTC).
Granted for 9 months to expire on 2025-05-15. To prolong your (interface) adminship, please start another election a few days before your temporary access expires, and after a week post your request again to this page. Thanks. EPIC (talk) 19:16, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot! Umarxon III (talk) 19:27, 15 August 2024 (UTC).
Umarxon III@tkwiki
[edit]- Wiki: tk.wikipedia.org (list 'crats • bot policy • summary • 'crats rights)
- User: Umarxon III (talk • edits • logs • UserRights • activity • CentralAuth • email • verify 2FA)
- Discussion: Here
I am re-submitting my candidacy due to the upcoming deadline. Umarxon III (talk) 19:24, 15 August 2024 (UTC).
Granted for 6 months to expire on 2025-02-15. To prolong your (interface) adminship, please start another election a few days before your temporary access expires, and after a week post your request again to this page. Thanks. EPIC (talk) 19:28, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
Interface administrator access
[edit]See Interface admin for information about this user group.
- If you need to accomplish a one-time, non-recurring task, please request your task at Steward requests/Miscellaneous.
- If you are requesting adminship and the interface admin at the same time, you can file one request in administrator section and state you want interface adminship as well.
- MediaWiki interface translations are done at translatewiki.net. Please do not request interface administrator access solely for that purpose; your request will be declined.
- Since the end of 2018, all interface administrators are required to have two-factor authentication (2FA) enabled. Please, enable it before posting your request here.
- Stewards: Please use {{Systmp}} for approved temporary requests.
Requests for removal of access should be posted at the section below.
Please start a new discussion about requesting the permission on the local village pump, administrators' noticeboard or a designated page for requesting permissions each time you request or renew interface adminship.
- Discussions should be open for seven days. Please request interface adminship here seven days after discussions started. This page is not the place for any discussions or votes. (For wikis with few active users, it is OK to have no comments.)
- If you only want interface adminship for specific tasks, please state for how long and for which tasks you need it. Otherwise stewards will decide whether to assign permanent interface adminship and the duration of interface adminship. See Steward requests/Permissions/Minimum voting requirements.
Umarxon III@uzwiktionary
[edit]- Wiki: uz.wiktionary.org (list 'crats • bot policy • summary • 'crats rights)
- User: Umarxon III (talk • edits • logs • UserRights • activity • CentralAuth • email • verify 2FA)
- Discussion: Here
I am re-submitting my candidacy due to the upcoming deadline. Umarxon III (talk) 19:31, 15 August 2024 (UTC).
Done With the same expiry as sysop rights. EPIC (talk) 19:33, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
Bureaucrat access
[edit]- In principle, requests for temporary bureaucrat access are not granted.
- A small project does not need bureaucrats. Currently whether a promotion is valid or not is decided by stewards. See here for a guideline.
Requests for removal of access should be posted at the section below.
CheckUser access
[edit]- To request CheckUser information, see Steward requests/Checkuser. This is the place to request CheckUser access.
- One-time CheckUser access is not permitted and temporary access is only used by Stewards or when the mandate of the CUs has an expiry date specified in local policies.
- Stewards: Before granting this permission to a user, please check the current policy and make sure that the user has signed the confidentiality agreement with the Wikimedia Foundation. An email template is available for requesting new users to identify.
- When a new user is assigned to this group, please add them to this list. Subscription to checkuser-l will be handled by list owners. Make sure new users contact an op for access to #wikimedia-privacyconnect and #wikimedia-checkuserconnect.
Oversight access
[edit]- To request to have content oversighted, ask for a steward in #wikimedia-stewardsconnect and contact a steward privately. This section is for requesting access to the Oversight tool.
- For contact details about oversighters across the wikis, refer to this page.
- Note that temporary Oversight access is not permitted and temporary status is only used by Stewards .
- Stewards: Before granting this permission to a user, please check the current policy and make sure that the user has signed the confidentiality agreement with the Wikimedia Foundation.
- When a new user is assigned to this group, please add them to this list.
Miscellaneous requests
[edit]Requests for permissions that don't fit in other sections belong here. Importer rights can be granted on most wikis by stewards only. Please gain local community consensus before posting a new section here.
Note that the following types of permissions requests belong on separate pages:
Lhoussine AIT TAYFST@zghwiki
[edit]- Wiki: zgh.wikipedia.org (list 'crats •
no standard bot policy• summary • 'crats rights) - User: Lhoussine AIT TAYFST (talk • edits • logs • UserRights • activity • CentralAuth • email • verify 2FA)
- Discussion: here
Request for Importer Permissions --Lhoussine AIT TAYFST (talk) 19:31, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- What will you use import for, and for how long will you need it? Importupload is quite cautious and we generally do not grant it permanently on wikis as small as zghwiki. If it is a one time task, we could perform it instead. EPIC (talk) 19:34, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- If you just want to import from a few specific wikis you can also request on Phabricator to add them to the list of sister projects for transwiki import so you can import from them with transwiki import. --Ameisenigel (talk) 21:02, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
Removal of access
[edit]- If you're requesting the removal of your own permissions, make sure you're logged in to your account. If you have multiple flags, specify which you want removed. Stewards may delay your request a short time to ensure you have time to rethink your request (see previous discussion on 24 hour delays); the rights will not be restored by stewards once they are removed.
- To request the removal of another user's permissions, you must gain consensus on the local wiki first. When there is community consensus that the user's access should be removed, provide a link to the discussion, with a brief explanation of the reason for the request, and summarize the results of discussion. However, as bureaucrats of some wikis may remove users from the administrator or bureaucrat group, please see also a separate list of these specific wikis.
- To request the removal of another user's permissions for inactivity, link to your local inactivity policy. If your site does not have inactivity policy, the global policy Admin activity review applies.
- See the instructions above for adding new requests. Please post new requests at the bottom of the section.
Kenrick95@id.wikibooks, Kenrick95@id.wikiquote, Kenrick95@id.wiktionary, Kenrick95@id.wikipedia
[edit]- Wiki: id.wikibooks.org (list 'crats • bot policy • summary • 'crats rights)
- User: Kenrick95 (talk • edits • logs • UserRights • activity • CentralAuth • email • verify 2FA)
- Wiki: id.wikiquote.org (list 'crats • bot policy • summary • 'crats rights)
- User: Kenrick95 (talk • edits • logs • UserRights • activity • CentralAuth • email • verify 2FA)
- Wiki: id.wiktionary.org (list 'crats • bot policy • summary • 'crats rights)
- User: Kenrick95 (talk • edits • logs • UserRights • activity • CentralAuth • email • verify 2FA)
- Wiki: id.wikipedia.org (list 'crats •
no standard bot policy• summary • 'crats rights) - User: Kenrick95 (talk • edits • logs • UserRights • activity • CentralAuth • email • verify 2FA)
Over the past few years, I have not been active in the Wikimedia movement due to many other commitments. Having those rights may become a liability to me and the community if my account is compromised, especially for id.wikipedia where I have interface-admin rights. Therefore, I'd like those rights removed from those wikis (sysop on id.wikibooks, sysop on id.wikiquote, sysop on id.wiktionary, sysop and interface-admin on id.wikipedia). Thanks Kenrick95 (talk) 03:27, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
On hold for 1 day, standard for resignation of advanced permissions -- Amanda (she/her) 04:17, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
Done Thank you for your service. EPIC (talk) 03:43, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
Vituzzu@it.wikipedia
[edit]- Wiki: it.wikipedia.org (list 'crats •
no standard bot policy• summary • 'crats rights) - User: Vituzzu (talk • edits • logs • UserRights • activity • CentralAuth • email • verify 2FA)
- Discussion: User surpassed italian wikipedia Inactivity policy of 6 months.
Note that user is a bureaucrat, check user and interface-admin on it.wiki. Ashoppio (talk) 15:46, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
Done with thanks to Vito for his long service. Emailing CU list admins to remove complimentary accesses. EPIC (talk) 15:48, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- (conflicted)Pls put "On hold", the request isn't neither from ad admin or a burocrat. It seems that Vituzzu has used his rights. Just a moment, to rpvide logs. --M/ (talk) 15:50, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- @EPIC, Pls see: here. --M/ (talk) 15:53, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. Since the removal was disputed, I have restored the rights for now and placed the request on hold until this has been clarified. Sorry for the inconvenience - I was not aware that an admin has to make the request. EPIC (talk) 15:55, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Usually it is not necessary, any trusted user can make a removal request here, provided that stated conditions are true. You can see yourself that this is a logged admin action and therefore the flag cannot be removed per policy but only upon a community non-confidence vote or further inactivity. Thank you. M/ (talk) 15:59, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks; I checked the log but somehow I had misread it as 8 February, not 8 August. Maybe I'm too tired. Anyways,
Not done then - appears the inactivity policy is met for now. EPIC (talk) 16:16, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- @EPIC @M7 Sorry for the inconvenience. I had read the "user contributions", and they said last contribution was around 9 feb. I didnt read the "registri" page. Sorry again! Ashoppio (talk) 16:30, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks; I checked the log but somehow I had misread it as 8 February, not 8 August. Maybe I'm too tired. Anyways,
- Usually it is not necessary, any trusted user can make a removal request here, provided that stated conditions are true. You can see yourself that this is a logged admin action and therefore the flag cannot be removed per policy but only upon a community non-confidence vote or further inactivity. Thank you. M/ (talk) 15:59, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. Since the removal was disputed, I have restored the rights for now and placed the request on hold until this has been clarified. Sorry for the inconvenience - I was not aware that an admin has to make the request. EPIC (talk) 15:55, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- @EPIC, Pls see: here. --M/ (talk) 15:53, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
Dungodung@sr.wikipedia
[edit]- Wiki: sr.wikipedia.org (list 'crats •
no standard bot policy• summary • 'crats rights) - User: Dungodung (talk • edits • logs • UserRights • activity • CentralAuth • email • verify 2FA)
- Discussion: Because the FelixBot controlled by Filip Maljković is engaged in the mass removal of the Short description template from the content of the article, and the clear task for which this bot was assigned the flag does not include the deletion of the template from the content of the article, noting that any mass removal of content is a form of vandalism. The bot was hired after a vote was taken on a proposal to delete the Short Description template that had no community participation because a Notice on the main page was not set. Request here.
— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Filipović Zoran (talk) 01:49, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- The de-sysop vote just started, but it needs to run for at least one week (or longer in case there is a local policy on de-adminship votes mandating a longer vote). Please wait until they have ended, and feel free to re-report should the discussions be successful. So for now I am closing this as
Not done. EPIC (talk) 02:36, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ранко Николић has just deleted all three of my requests under the indication of an unfounded and improperly placed request. So much for giving editors the opportunity to participate in discussion and voting. Filipović Zoran (talk) 20:42, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- The de-sysop vote just started, but it needs to run for at least one week (or longer in case there is a local policy on de-adminship votes mandating a longer vote). Please wait until they have ended, and feel free to re-report should the discussions be successful. So for now I am closing this as
Sadko@sr.wikipedia
[edit]- Wiki: sr.wikipedia.org (list 'crats •
no standard bot policy• summary • 'crats rights) - User: Sadko (talk • edits • logs • UserRights • activity • CentralAuth • email • verify 2FA)
- Discussion: Started a discussion about removing the Short Description template without a Notice on the main page because he knew that there would be votes against, so only the privileged editors were informed about the launch of this had the opportunity to participate in the discussion and voting for the proposal. Request here.
— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Filipović Zoran (talk) 01:49, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- The de-sysop vote just started, but it needs to run for at least one week (or longer in case there is a local policy on de-adminship votes mandating a longer vote). Please wait until they have ended, and feel free to re-report should the discussions be successful. So for now I am closing this as
Not done. EPIC (talk) 02:36, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ранко Николић has just deleted all three of my requests under the indication of an unfounded and improperly placed request. So much for giving editors the opportunity to participate in discussion and voting. Filipović Zoran (talk) 20:46, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- The de-sysop vote just started, but it needs to run for at least one week (or longer in case there is a local policy on de-adminship votes mandating a longer vote). Please wait until they have ended, and feel free to re-report should the discussions be successful. So for now I am closing this as
Ранко Николић@sr.wikipedia
[edit]- Wiki: sr.wikipedia.org (list 'crats •
no standard bot policy• summary • 'crats rights) - User: Ранко Николић (talk • edits • logs • UserRights • activity • CentralAuth • email • verify 2FA)
- Discussion: as the reason for the 7-day block, he cites personal attacks and does not respond to my request to leave me a link where exactly I made personal attacks. He can't do that because there were no personal attacks. Request here.
— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Filipović Zoran (talk) 01:49, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- The de-sysop vote just started, but it needs to run for at least one week (or longer in case there is a local policy on de-adminship votes mandating a longer vote). Please wait until they have ended, and feel free to re-report should the discussions be successful. So for now I am closing this as
Not done. EPIC (talk) 02:36, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Serbian Wikipedia is known for pushing right-wing politics. You can see this article in the newspapper addressing that issue. Many administrators on that project, including Ranko, reject the fact that Wikipedia is a free encyclopedia. They act as if Wikipedia is a government-run project. Therefore, they can't help but advocate for values that are in contrast to the principles of Wikipedia. What's even interesting, many of them have been blocked on English Wikipedia for causing trouble there. So essentially you can tell that Serbian Wikipedia is run by outlaws from English Wikipedia. They barricaded themselves on Serbian Wikipedia and turn the project into a little fortress. If you want this project to live on, you must at least relieve these administrators off their precious rights, or otherwise you risk the project turning into an impregnable fortress of nationalism.--Lookeetch (talk) 10:38, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Well, unfortunately, unless the community has explicitly voted to remove the rights, in emergencies, or in case of resignation, we cannot strip users of their permissions. Should this de-sysop vote be successful, we could remove the rights, but until then there is no action that can be taken by us. EPIC (talk) 10:42, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Well, you just let a bunch of renegades take over the project. You could really pay attention to what is going on there. It's in the interest of the project. There will be many more cases of people seeking justice here. Mark my words.--Lookeetch (talk) 11:01, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Stewards' role is to enact consensus, not serve as arbitrators for the global Wikimedia community. For cases where local procedures fail, the global RfC process can be used to collect input from the cross-wiki community or propose global bans (such as in the case of Croatian Wikipedia). ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 11:56, 12 August 2024 (UTC) - In this case, local procedures are failing. A few administrators have usurped the projects for their own needs. As for other users who are not involved in the administration, they are constantly terorized by them. As is the case with Zoran Filipović.--Lookeetch (talk) 12:10, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Again, this is not the venue for this kind of allegations. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 12:38, 12 August 2024 (UTC)- Where is it, then? Sooner or later someone will have to put the maddness of those administrations to an end. They are a real manace to the project. Once outlaws, always outlaws.--Lookeetch (talk) 13:06, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Again, this is not the venue for this kind of allegations. ~~~~
- Stewards' role is to enact consensus, not serve as arbitrators for the global Wikimedia community. For cases where local procedures fail, the global RfC process can be used to collect input from the cross-wiki community or propose global bans (such as in the case of Croatian Wikipedia). ~~~~
- Well, you just let a bunch of renegades take over the project. You could really pay attention to what is going on there. It's in the interest of the project. There will be many more cases of people seeking justice here. Mark my words.--Lookeetch (talk) 11:01, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ранко Николић has just deleted all three of my requests under the indication of an unfounded and improperly placed request. So much for giving editors the opportunity to participate in discussion and voting. Filipović Zoran (talk) 20:45, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, that's right, Zoran, all those admin removal nominations of yours are pretty much pointless and unfounded, they witnessed no meaningful activity and your announcements posted on the local admin noticeboard didn't attract other people's attention at all. نوفاك اتشمان (talk) 21:39, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- They did not attract the attention of other people because no administrator posted a notice on the front page and invited the editors to participate in the discussion and vote.Filipović Zoran (talk) 21:58, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Well, unfortunately, unless the community has explicitly voted to remove the rights, in emergencies, or in case of resignation, we cannot strip users of their permissions. Should this de-sysop vote be successful, we could remove the rights, but until then there is no action that can be taken by us. EPIC (talk) 10:42, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- The de-sysop vote just started, but it needs to run for at least one week (or longer in case there is a local policy on de-adminship votes mandating a longer vote). Please wait until they have ended, and feel free to re-report should the discussions be successful. So for now I am closing this as
Novak Watchmen@sr.wikipedia
[edit]- Wiki: sr.wikipedia.org (list 'crats •
no standard bot policy• summary • 'crats rights) - User: نوفاك اتشمان (talk • edits • logs • UserRights • activity • CentralAuth • email • verify 2FA)
- Discussion: It is quite unfortunate that this user, i. e. Novak Watchmen, is an administrator. He is analphabet even in his mother tongue, let alone in English. His very own user name is misspelled. What's disturbing is that he tends to expose other people's IP addresses. Someone really could do something about him. He is also part of the little fortress rulled by the outlaws on Serbian Wikipedia--Lookeetch (talk) 12:52, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- For the same reason as above I also have to mark this as
Not done. Outside of community consensus, resignation or emergencies, we cannot be removing users from their advanced permissions. So, you will need to open a local vote of confidence at srwiki. EPIC (talk) 13:01, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hello steward EPIC, that's the LTA Velimir Ivanovic/Kolega2357. Feel free to consult this section as to why he's mad at me since yesterday. :-) نوفاك اتشمان (talk) 13:09, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info. OK,
Not done in either case. EPIC (talk) 13:19, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- @EPIC As checkuser on Serbian Wikipedia, I would like to, please, request for all the requests made by Mr. Zoran Filipović to be disregarded. This user has had numerour issues with bunch of different users (including myself at certain points of time) and every time if it does not go his way, he goes ballistic and starts requesting removal of access to specific admins or users wherever he can. As a source of proof, take a look at his requests for Acaalexaca and Zoranzoki21.
- Filip (@Dungodung) has been at Serbian Wikipedia and nobody has ever had issues with him and the only reason why Mr. Filipovic has had issue with him is because he is, very clearly, obsessed with statistics and numbers to the point where he will do whatever it takes to "get to the top".
- If you could, please, disregard his requests, that will be greatly appreciated. Боки ✉ 18:26, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- The requests are declined, so yes, as long as no consensus exists, the requests will be disregarded. EPIC (talk) 19:04, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info. OK,
- Hello steward EPIC, that's the LTA Velimir Ivanovic/Kolega2357. Feel free to consult this section as to why he's mad at me since yesterday. :-) نوفاك اتشمان (talk) 13:09, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
Eumolpo@it.wikipedia
[edit]- Wiki: it.wikipedia.org (list 'crats •
no standard bot policy• summary • 'crats rights) - User: Eumolpo (talk • edits • logs • UserRights • activity • CentralAuth • email • verify 2FA)
- Discussion: per local policy: removal after six months sysop inactivity.
Please remove admin status. Eumolpo has been already informed and thanked for his work. Thanks, --Mtarch11 (talk) 04:01, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
Done, thanks for your service @Eumolpo! --Johannnes89 (talk) 04:58, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
FlightTime@global
[edit]- Wiki: meta.wikimedia.org (list 'crats • bot policy • summary • 'crats rights)
- User: FlightTime (talk • edits • logs • UserRights • activity • CentralAuth • email • verify 2FA)
Please remove my Global rename access. Thank you, - FlightTime (open channel) 23:30, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
On hold for 1 day, standard for resignation of advanced permissions. @FlightTime: FYI, I moved this from SN to SRP. EPIC (talk) 23:32, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanx, - FlightTime (open channel) 23:39, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
Request withdrawn @EPIC: Thanks for the time to sort things out. I withdraw this request. - FlightTime (open channel) 11:45, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- No problem, it's why we have the 24 hours. Marking as withdrawn. EPIC (talk) 11:50, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanx, - FlightTime (open channel) 23:39, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
NANöR@ar.wikisource
[edit]- Wiki: ar.wikisource.org (list 'crats • bot policy • summary • 'crats rights)
- User: NANöR (talk • edits • logs • UserRights • activity • CentralAuth • email • verify 2FA)
- Discussion: voting page
please remove sysop permissions because it was granted after the nomination had been open for only 8 days, which is against the policy. The voting policy states that "voting must continue for 21 days." I contacted the bureaucrat @Avicenno: who granted the permission, he agreed to remove it because he did not notice the policy.--Faisal talk 17:04, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- I think generally we would remove the rights in cases like this, but I'm also a bit unsure given how long ago the voting happened. I could check with my fellow colleagues, however. So I will keep this on hold until a decision is made. EPIC (talk) 17:14, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm very hesitant to remove admin permission which were granted two years ago, just because of a formal mistake back then. If we did that, multiple arwikisource admin permissions probably needed to be revoked, I see multiple requests for admin / interface admin permissions closed in less than 21 days e.g. [2][3] Johannnes89 (talk) 17:27, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, the sysop rights should be revoked from any sysop (including me) who obtained it in less than 21 days. The Arabic Wikisource policy states this. Bureaucrat Avicenno said that he did not notice this and agrees to remove the permissions. they can open a new nomination for 21 days according to the policy.--Faisal talk 17:50, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Just my opinion, why not have a local discussion on collective desysop of these users? If community has a consensus, it would be a good argument to desysop, or otherwise, it would end up in any kind of modification in the RfA process. However, that is just my suggestion. The decision is with the stewards. ─ Aafī on Mobile (talk) 18:07, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed – this isn't the place to have a general discussion disputing that. SHB2000 (t • c) 21:29, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Just my opinion, why not have a local discussion on collective desysop of these users? If community has a consensus, it would be a good argument to desysop, or otherwise, it would end up in any kind of modification in the RfA process. However, that is just my suggestion. The decision is with the stewards. ─ Aafī on Mobile (talk) 18:07, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @فيصل,
- Given that most admins on Ar Wikisource, including yourself, were granted admin permissions without adhering to the 21-day period specified in the policy, why are you specifically requesting the revocation of NANöR's admin rights? Nada.FA (talk) 22:41, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Nada.FA: As I mentioned in my comment above "the sysop rights should be revoked from any sysop (including me) who obtained it in less than 21 days." it is not about NANöR only. Please read my comments carefully. thanks.--Faisal talk 00:48, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- @فيصل, The request mentions only NANöR, why didn't you include yourself in the original request? You should be careful and include every admin involved in the matter. Nada.FA (talk) 06:20, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Nada.FA: As I mentioned in my comment above "the sysop rights should be revoked from any sysop (including me) who obtained it in less than 21 days." it is not about NANöR only. Please read my comments carefully. thanks.--Faisal talk 00:48, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, the sysop rights should be revoked from any sysop (including me) who obtained it in less than 21 days. The Arabic Wikisource policy states this. Bureaucrat Avicenno said that he did not notice this and agrees to remove the permissions. they can open a new nomination for 21 days according to the policy.--Faisal talk 17:50, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm very hesitant to remove admin permission which were granted two years ago, just because of a formal mistake back then. If we did that, multiple arwikisource admin permissions probably needed to be revoked, I see multiple requests for admin / interface admin permissions closed in less than 21 days e.g. [2][3] Johannnes89 (talk) 17:27, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- There is NOT any Voting Policy in ar.wikisource the page you have mentioned is a request for adminship page not a policy. It also linked to Wikipedia:Requests for adminship (Q4048254) wikidata item. In this page you can see a red link to missed policy (1st link). The page has instruction to bureaucrats how to close the requests. Our bureaucrat may believe that these instructions are not mandatory, so he closed the requests for a less than 21 days. There is no objection to his actions until you wrote this request so it is consensus from Arabic Wikisource community to our bureaucrat actions. 🇵🇸 حبيشانtalk 12:28, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
I would be surprised if @Avicenno agreed to desysopping half of the project's admins just because of formal errors which happened years ago. Can you provide a link to your discussion @Faisal? We would need public approval by Avicenno to even consider this. If a crat makes an error while granting permissions and asks the stewards minutes/hours/days later to correct it, we will do this no questions asked, but acting years later on a formal error wich affects many admins seems excessive to me. Anyway stewards are discussing this internally and will follow-up in the next couple of days. --Johannnes89 (talk) 06:42, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Johannnes89: I communicated with @Avicenno outside the discussion pages on Wikipedia regarding the removal of admin permissions for those who obtained it in less than 21 days, and I ping him for confirmation. Also, this formal error could change the final outcome of the nomination, as it is an impactful error. I have a question: what's the issue with opening new nominations for each admin (including myself) for 21 days according to the policy, and letting the community decide in the end? Yes, it's happening years later because the bureaucrat who granted the permissions admitted he didn't notice the 21-day requirement.--Faisal talk 08:46, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi again @فيصل,
- The following statement is not true:
- "it's happening years later because the bureaucrat who granted the permissions admitted he didn't notice the 21-day requirement"
- According to your nomination, you asked to overlook the 21-day requirement, and the bureaucrat asked you to wait and consulted a second opinion from Alaa.
- Alaa stated that:"In the absence of a project policy regarding the nomination period, the stewards' policy for granting admin rights in any project is exactly 7 days. After 7 days, regardless of whether there are participants in the voting or not, if there are opposing votes, the period can be extended based on the user's preference. In my opinion, since there are 5 votes in favor, and most of them are active in the project, the rights can be granted after 7 days."
- And therefore you were granted the admin rights based on your request to overlook the policy. After that many admins were granted the rights on Ar Wikisource with same manner. Why do you want it to be applied now by revoking many admins rights, and mentioning NANöR specifically? Nada.FA (talk) 11:06, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi again @Nada.FA: your comment is incorrect. Please do not misrepresent what happened during my nomination to support your argument. This is inappropriate behavior. After 7 days of my nomination, I pinged the bureaucrat Avicenno, and asked him "As you are the only bureaucrat here, is it possible to close the vote after the one-week period?" Avicenno the bureaucrat responded "Yes, the nomination will be closed after a week." When he confirmed this to me, I wrote him a reminder to close the nomination based on the response he provided. I did not ask to overlook the 21-day requirement because I was not aware of it, and I didn’t even know that the policy existed since it was approved just 22 hours before my nomination started. I hope the point is clear: "any" admin who obtained their rights before the 21-day period was wrong. I thought that only Nanour's nomination contained this mistake, so I made the request, but it turned out that there were more cases. Therefore, the rights should be revoked from any admin who obtained it before 21 days, including myself. The matter is simple; the important thing is to apply the policy to everyone, not just to one user and not others.--Faisal talk 12:16, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hello @فيصل,
- 1. Please do not focus on my behavior. I am merely addressing an issue that, in my opinion, threatens the sustainability of the Arabic Wikisource, as your request to revoke the admin rights of a significant number of administrators could have serious implications, and might waste volunteers capacity for another round of nominations without proper justification.
- 2. After 7 days of your nomination you asked the bureaucrat to close it. At that time there was no policy for the nomination period. Apparently, there is an ongoing improvement in this area just now.
- 3. The bureaucrat told you: yes it will be closed after 7 days, but then he explained that "Requests for admin rights are usually closed after two or three weeks, not after one week, as that is too short a period to agree on a policy, let alone a nomination." He asked for a second opinion and Alaa explained the previously mentioned approach in projects without a policy for nomination peroids but he also explained that it is up to the project's bureaucrat to decide.
- 4. As @حبيشان explained, the 21-day period is currently only mentioned as an instruction for the bureaucrat, not as a formal policy. Since your nomination process did not establish a policy, it has been left to the bureaucrat's discretion. You requested that your nomination be closed after 7 days, and this practice has been followed ever since (correct me if I am wrong).
- If there is an Ar Wikisource policy that wasn't applied during the nominations that followed you, please share them, I might missed something:) Nada.FA (talk) 15:05, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Nada.FA: Of course, I should focus on your behavior because in your previous comment, you incorrectly translated my comments from Arabic to English to support your argument. I hope this isn't an attempt to take advantage of users who are not proficient in Arabic, as this is inappropriate behavior. Anyway, the current discussions are not about the "nomination period" at all, which remains 21 days as per the established policy for years. Once again, you are incorrectly describing what is happening in the discussions "in Arabic language." It is focused on what the criteria are for a user to be eligible to run for adminship, what the criteria are for a user to be eligible to vote, and what the conditions are for removing admin rights from an inactive admin. Anyway, the policy is clear that the nomination should last for 21 days. There is no need to repeat the same points in every comment so that the stewards can read the comments smoothly. Your opinion is clear, and so is mine. The decision is up to the stewards.--Faisal talk 15:41, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @فيصل,
- I appreciate your concern. I really have no advantages here, as anyone can translate the Arabic text and verify the content for themselves. I agree let's wait for the stewards decision since there's no established policy. Regards. Nada.FA (talk) 16:53, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- @EPIC & @Johannnes89: I'm really sorry for commenting in between but these continuous heated arguments are not helping here. Why not just reject or put this request on hold, in its current form and ask the ar.wikisource community to have a local discussion on their RfA procedure (to know if they are okay with all of these people being admins or if they want a desysop of all because this is not an individual case and has a larger impact). A new RfA is just a waste of time given that these people are already admins. An ar.wikisource 'crat could make up a new request here afterwards they have any consensus. Just my idea because I felt this board has become like the congested Batla House market. signed, Aafi (talk) 18:19, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Nada.FA: Of course, I should focus on your behavior because in your previous comment, you incorrectly translated my comments from Arabic to English to support your argument. I hope this isn't an attempt to take advantage of users who are not proficient in Arabic, as this is inappropriate behavior. Anyway, the current discussions are not about the "nomination period" at all, which remains 21 days as per the established policy for years. Once again, you are incorrectly describing what is happening in the discussions "in Arabic language." It is focused on what the criteria are for a user to be eligible to run for adminship, what the criteria are for a user to be eligible to vote, and what the conditions are for removing admin rights from an inactive admin. Anyway, the policy is clear that the nomination should last for 21 days. There is no need to repeat the same points in every comment so that the stewards can read the comments smoothly. Your opinion is clear, and so is mine. The decision is up to the stewards.--Faisal talk 15:41, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi again @Nada.FA: your comment is incorrect. Please do not misrepresent what happened during my nomination to support your argument. This is inappropriate behavior. After 7 days of my nomination, I pinged the bureaucrat Avicenno, and asked him "As you are the only bureaucrat here, is it possible to close the vote after the one-week period?" Avicenno the bureaucrat responded "Yes, the nomination will be closed after a week." When he confirmed this to me, I wrote him a reminder to close the nomination based on the response he provided. I did not ask to overlook the 21-day requirement because I was not aware of it, and I didn’t even know that the policy existed since it was approved just 22 hours before my nomination started. I hope the point is clear: "any" admin who obtained their rights before the 21-day period was wrong. I thought that only Nanour's nomination contained this mistake, so I made the request, but it turned out that there were more cases. Therefore, the rights should be revoked from any admin who obtained it before 21 days, including myself. The matter is simple; the important thing is to apply the policy to everyone, not just to one user and not others.--Faisal talk 12:16, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
Not done Since this is not recent, you will need to establish community consensus for removal. — JJMC89 (T·C) 18:23, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
Dcirovic@sh.wikipedia
[edit]- Wiki: sh.wikipedia.org (list 'crats • bot policy • summary • 'crats rights)
- User: Dcirovic (talk • edits • logs • UserRights • activity • CentralAuth • email • verify 2FA)
- Discussion: local inactivity policy
- Hello, remove their administrator access, as they didn't make any logged sysop action within the last 2 years: "Imajte na umu da se korisniku automatski oduzima administratorski status ako za dvije godine nije preduzeo nijednu administratorsku radnju." https://meta.toolforge.org/stewardry/shwiki?sysop=1 --نوفاك اتشمان (talk) 02:26, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
Done with thanks to them for their service. EPIC (talk) 02:35, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. نوفاك اتشمان (talk) 02:44, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
نوفاك اتشمان@sr.wikipedia
[edit]- Wiki: sr.wikipedia.org (list 'crats •
no standard bot policy• summary • 'crats rights) - User: نوفاك اتشمان (talk • edits • logs • UserRights • activity • CentralAuth • email • verify 2FA)
- Discussion: Four hours after I announced that I was permanently leaving Wikipedia in the Serbian language, the administrator اتشمان partially blocked my account for two weeks. He even blocked the talk page on my user page (persistent writing of nonsensical or incomprehensible content). Filipović Zoran (talk) 08:15, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, the same as in previous requests still applies, with the exception of self-requests we have no authority to remove advanced rights outside of local consensus or emergencies. We act on community consensus, so in this case there needs to be a local discussion, until then we cannot proceed with any of these removals. So
Not done until then. EPIC (talk) 08:29, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- The community is not allowed to participate in the discussion and vote on my proposal to remove admin rights, because the same administrators against whom the proposal was raised delete it. Filipović Zoran (talk) 08:39, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
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