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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 15, 2024.

Sportacus 9

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 29#Sportacus 9

Goerdel's theorem

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was keep. plicit 23:39, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unlikely typo; no hits on the web. Goerdel et al. don't exist either. 1234qwer1234qwer4 20:27, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - from a phonetic (mis)pronunciation, so that others may find the correct target.   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  20:33, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Plausible phonetic spelling attempt. Imagine you're a high school student and your teacher mentions this but doesn't write it on the blackboard, or did but you didn't take notes and are now trying to look it up from memory. This redirect would be very useful to that person. Fieari (talk) 05:58, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - I've had to study Gödel before and I've also misspelled his name in many unlikely ways - the redirect is causing no harm and may help someone BugGhost🦗👻 13:26, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Wikipedia:INLINE

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Wikipedia:Inline citation. I added a hatnote as well. (non-admin closure) Ca talk to me! 14:37, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I discovered this redirect when trying to get to Wikipedia:Inline citation. From what links here, it seems a common mistake. The reason I'm not boldly changing it myself is that the current target, a WikiProject, seems alive, even if it's on life support. I figure, as a courtesy, we should get consensus to overwrite a redirect they've been using for years. It could also potentially be turned into a disambiguation page, though that wouldn't be my preference. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 19:54, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Retarget to Wikipedia:Inline citation per nom. I have made this mistake many times. C F A 💬 20:02, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - the current target is a project concerning all inline templates, and I don't think there's a good reason to consider inline citation templates to have precedence for this usage. The WikiProject already has a hatnote to Wikipedia:Inline citation, which uses the shortcut WP:IC. The project also has a list of inline templates, and I don't think that comprehensive list exists elsewhere. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:05, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Ivanvector. Also my view on the WP: shouty shortcuts is that they lose their intended purpose if they move or change. Changing it will break countless usages, both in talk/wp space, and in edit summaries (which can't be altered). Need a really good reason to change an established WP shortcut BugGhost🦗👻 23:02, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Begrudgingly updating my vote to Retarget (with hatnote) per Thryduulf - I had another look myself at the usages, and he's right that it looks like a lot of the time people who link to it are actually trying to reference WP:IC, by saying things like "you need to add inline citations". Retargetting this redirect would likely fix more existing links than it would break. BugGhost🦗👻 11:32, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget. I was all set to recommend keeping per Bugghost, but then I looked at the actual uses. This has many incoming links so I've looked at only a random sampling of them, but of those only 1 was clearly intending the current target, a few were completely ambiguous, some very clearly meant the citation templates, while the vast majority probably want the citation page. "WP:INLINE cite" (or "citation") is the most common form by for these links, the context they are in and the contents of the two targets means that it's at least more likely than not that the current target is not the one desired. Thryduulf (talk) 00:20, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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FinalMethod

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 25#FinalMethod

How the sausage gets made

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Sausage making#Culture. plicit 23:40, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A line near the bottom of the article has a newspaper quoting Saxe giving a version of this quote, without any explanation and barely any context. According to WikiQuote this is the earliest known use of the phrase that's popularly [mis]attributed to Otto von Bismarck; his WikiQuote page elaborates on that somewhat but his Wikipedia bio doesn't mention it at all. Wiktionary has wikt:how the sausage gets made which gives an explanation of the phrase but nothing on its background. I don't think we have a better page for the metaphor; we have inside baseball (metaphor) which is similar but not quite the same thing. I'm not sure what to do but I don't think the current treatment is right. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:15, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Galaxy 2

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The result of the discussion was speedy keep. Withdrawn per WP:SK1 given the competing RM which will be carried out. A WP:RM/TR request has already been made. (non-admin closure) 2pou (talk) 22:53, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

abbreviation only seen in the specific context of discussions about mario games. could otherwise refer to samsung galaxy devices, or other things with "galaxy" in their names and a 2 somewhere cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 19:12, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment It looks like cogsan is asking to withdraw this RfD (correct me if wrong @Cogsan), and any decision will get overriden by the requested move - could someone who knows what they're doing (because I don't) close this, if appropriate? BugGhost🦗👻 11:44, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
i tried closing it myself, but xfdc doesn't want to let me. weird cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:55, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Demolition Ranch

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The result of the discussion was Delete per WP:SNOW. Thryduulf (talk) 00:42, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure this is an appropriate target. Should an uninvolved YouTube channel really redirect to the shooter's page? Context for those unaware [2]. An article on the channel was previously deleted twice (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Matt Carriker (2nd nomination), but it may be notable enough now with all this extra coverage. C F A 💬 18:41, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete; this is an outrageously defamatory implication to make about a random guy on YouTube. jp×g🗯️ 00:43, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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E610

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 29#E610

Theoretical high pixel count images

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 25#Theoretical high pixel count images

Nuzlocke

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 29#Nuzlocke

Hardcore Gamer (website)

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:56, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The target page mentions the concept of a "hardcore gamer" but bears no reference to the website of that name. IceWelder [] 08:11, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 13:19, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, no appropriate target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:52, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Harry Patterson

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The result of the discussion was moved Harry Patterson (disambiguation) to Harry Patterson. (non-admin closure) C F A 💬 21:37, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

I propose to move the new disambiguation page, Harry Patterson (disambiguation), over this title. The current redirect subject, Jack Higgins, may well be a popular author, but his real name was "Henry Patterson" (not Harry), and he apparently only ever made limited use of the name "Harry Patterson", finally switching to "Jack Higgins" before he became famous; I therefore do not think there is a primary topic for the actual name, "Harry Patterson". BD2412 T 01:02, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Move Harry Patterson (disambiguation) to Harry Patterson, per 98Tigerius BugGhost🪲👻 12:15, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 13:15, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Siddiqui

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The result of the discussion was moved. (non-admin closure) C F A 💬 21:46, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Current target Muslim Kayastha is very specifically referring to a community in a region in India. Meanwhile this name found all over Pakistan and Bangladesh as well among unrelated communities. (e.g the name is listed here as a Sindhi name as well List of Sindhi tribes (in the "others" section) Kowtis (talk) 09:05, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 13:14, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Rajeshwari Vilas Coffee Club

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of programmes broadcast by Zee Telugu per NCRET. @Rusalkii: Please open a new RfD if you want to discuss the other redirects created by the now blocked user. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 01:58, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target. Is a series aired on that channel, may belong at List of programmes broadcast by Zee Telugu but that page is up for deletion. Rusalkii (talk) 21:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Likewise Seethe Ramudi Katnam Rusalkii (talk) 22:35, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
...and very very many others, all of which created by an editor blocked for paid editing User talk:RahulBodke. Propose to delete the lot. Rusalkii (talk) 22:40, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If it belongs there, someone needs to add an entry. (And maybe add some sources, that list article is rather light on those.) 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 22:39, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 07:23, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 13:14, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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SportAccord

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The result of the discussion was No consensus * Pppery * it has begun... 02:53, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Removal/deletion of current redirect as it creates misleading impression. The redirect page reflects the name of a separate organization with its own initiatives whereas the target page reflects another organization that is now dissolved. In the current target page there's even a proposal on the Talk page from someone addressing this confusion. There should be a separate page and information about the redirect page of SportAccord JennyAnderson 2 (talk) 14:38, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hard to say, maybe we can just rename that GAISF article again to be SportAccord? Notified both WP:SPORTS and WP:Switzerland. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:22, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is hard, indeed. But I feel there would be value to having a separate SportAccord page as these are entirely different entities and it's tricky to combine them into one article efficiently as they have different structures, activities, missions. JennyAnderson 2 (talk) 09:27, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, that's why that SportAccord has its own Wikidata item just because of entirely different entities, but then it meets own notability for separating? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:46, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 02:57, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, plicit 23:42, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Even though it seems there's a connection between the two pages and organizations, SportAccord seems to have very different initiatives and a strong user following from people who attend the SportAccord events so there will be a benefit to distinguishing clearly the two organizations.
Thomson.janet101 (talk) 10:49, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 13:12, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: I did some little digging into this.
    • The website mentioned in GAISF infobox https://gaisf.sport currently redirects to https://sportaccord.sport However it only has links to some summits and does not mention of any list of member federations.
    • Another website https://gaisf.org which is linked from some member federations' website (such as https://www.ilsf.org/about/recognition/gaisf/) says on its homepage "DISSOLUTION OF GAISF APPROVED AT EXTRAORDINARY GENERAL ASSEMBLY, RECORD ATTENDANCE OF MEMBERS, NEXT STEPS CLARIFIED". Opening the link takes us to [3] which explains the development in details including the role of SportAccord. Also, its history page says the following:
      2003: GAISF in collaboration with the Association of Summer and Winter Olympic International Federations (ASOIF and AIOWF) launch the first SportAccord International Convention to answer a need from the IF’s which were looking to have a “one stop shop”, where they could all hold their annual meetings, be encouraged to network and share their knowledge.
      2017: SportAccord is renamed GAISF (Global Association of International Sports Federations)
      2022: Members approve dissolution of GAISF at Extraordinary General Assembly
    Honestly, I cannot construct a coherent history from this. If GAISF "launched" SportAccord, how did the latter also become "GAISF". Were there two bodies by the name of GAISF since 2017? If SportAccord was already remnamed in 2017, what is the SportAccord that functions currently? If someone knows more about this, it would be easier to make a decision. Thanks! CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {CX}) 20:04, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @CX Zoom Indeed, I sent an email to SportAccord's staff to clarify their details of member structure, maybe less possible to wait for their reply. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:58, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reply: Good point! I also did some digging and found a very helpful article that explains this confusion: [4]https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1049005/sportaccord-changes-name-to-global-association-of-international-sports-federations
A quote from this link:
"Adopting the Global Association of International Sports Federations name better represents the nature of the organisation and makes a clear distinction from the SportAccord Convention and any other commercial activities carried out under and on behalf of SportAccord/GAISF," GAISF said in a statement.
Basically I think this shows why this current redirect is not accurate and SportAccord needs its own Wikipedia article - GAISF has always been a separate organization (which is now dissolved and doesn't exist) , whereas SportAccord Convention (now known as just SportAccord) is a separate thing too - a popular annual event with editions for over 20 years now. JennyAnderson 2 (talk) 15:04, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Given such response, I support re-write it as a sane article, if the potential contents meet the notability. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:35, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Liuxinyu970226: Did you get any email response? CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {CX}) 18:02, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@CX Zoom Still nothing. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 06:29, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Mentioned at target. If, over time, it splits out to its own article or warrants removal from the target, we can revisit, but we don't need to keep this discussion open for what sounds like a content issue. czar 02:23, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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metal age

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 29#metal age

Grand Duke of Hum redirects

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 8#Grand Duke of Hum redirects

Kirby DS

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Kirby (series)#2005–2011: Touch-based gameplay. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 01:50, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

there are 3 other kirby games on the ds, and squeak squad isn't even the first one cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 13:06, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 13:09, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with Tavix The section has useful info for readers. Ca talk to me! 14:40, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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CheckUser

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 29#CheckUser

Boss Brain

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 23:40, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

vague, subject to varying definitions of "boss" and "brain", not associated with the arachnotron or icon of sin in doom 2. taking both terms literally, i can name the spider mastermind (introduced in doom 1), the brain of cthulhu, mother brain, machiavillain, the 1000-thr, and i guess andross? if anything, the closest to a "primary" target seems to be the brain of cthulhu, but it's not mentioned in terraria's article at all cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:48, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2024 assassination attempt

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 1#2024 assassination attempt

Template:Chilodontidae-stub

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 1#Template:Chilodontidae-stub